OCT/NOV 2012 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Move2CLT]

Spelling the word thought, versus actually being capable of one, aren't one and the same 😉

Or are they? You seem to contradict yourself with the posts you make.

 

[Move2CLT]

While your "middle ground"..umm..."compromise" would place a 3 month, new-hire over a person with 17 years of unbroken service. I'd suggest that a wee bit more devoted research into the definition and philosophy of "middle ground" would prove beneficial for you.

On a slightly more caustic note; I remember chat snippets from as far back as the winter of 2007, when you were joyously and loudly throwing out such delectable barbs as "Ho, Ho, Ho! St. Nic is coming to town!" How's that "middle ground" of yours actually been working out for you?

Where on your seniority list was your 17 year guy again?

 

[EastUS1]

Where on your seniority list was your 17 year guy again?

Feel free to hob-nob with your fellow wizards, those amongst the nicster-cult's most truly devout, to your heart's content with that BS. Imo; no, even SLIGHTLY sane human being, would/could ever imagine placing a person with a whopping 3 months over one with 17 years unbroken service. That some can even begin to warp their heads around such an obvious absurdity will unfailingly serve to both amaze and amuse.

A 19 year old and a 2 year old toddler walk to the front door. Both are then in the same relative position at that point in time. Which one is and should (sanely speaking for a moment here, if at all possible) be considered senior? If the 19 year old lifts the 2 year old up onto their shoulders, and a "snapshot in time" is then taken; should the toddler be magically made forever "senior"...? 😉 Before any excessive splutttering ensues as to that not at all being comparable to the nic mess....well....I say to that relative is relative....period. If you think my example is completely absurd...then how is it even possible for you to NOT find the nic equally absurd...? 😉

 

[luvthe9]

Where on your seniority list was your 17 year guy again?

None of that matters nor does Nic. We have moved WAY past that stuff.that was all Nic junk and that doesn t matter anymore.

 

[EastUS1]

I agree, the APA would not be pleased if they took it that far and got "NICKED"!

While we're both best-guessing here, and who knows 'till the fat lady sings/etc; that concern does provide some reasonable motivation for them to consider a deal, versus an arbitration. I'd imagine that sufficient fences, and the knowledge that the east group would mostly become history within a very few years, would allow for some serious discussion there.

 

[EastUS1]

Not my opinion. That is judge Silvers learned opinion.

It's worthy of note that Judge Silver, fully and quite properly, acknowledges the 9th's rulings...while to your..umm..."interesting" little perspective..the same 9th ruling is magically "incorrect". Well...methinks I'll necessarily stick with the highest court(s) to rule as having any real say and effect, rather than your and OzAOL's fantasies. Show me the legal and successful results of your grand campaign. Tell us all just how and when the nic is to ever be magically "forced" into being. I've grown long past bored with the incessant, cultist chantings. No offence.

 

[EastUS1]

You are wAAy out in legal "never, never land" with that theory! But hey, why not go with it. Could I interest you in a handful of "magic beans" for that cow?

Just tell them that the beans are sacred relics from St. Nic's very garden, and that his holy hands have even touched them! That should close the deal instantly for perhaps fifty or more cows 😉

 

[cleardirect]

Feel free to hob-nob with your fellow wizards, those amongst the nicster-cult's most truly devout, to your heart's content with that BS. Imo; no, even SLIGHTLY sane human being, would/could ever imagine placing a person with a whopping 3 months over one with 17 years unbroken service. That some can even begin to warp their heads around such an obvious absurdity will unfailingly serve to both amaze and amuse.

A 19 year old and a 2 year old toddler walk to the front door. Both are then in the same relative position at that point in time. Which one is and should (sanely speaking for a moment here, if at all possible) be considered senior? If the 19 year old lifts the 2 year old up onto their shoulders, and a "snapshot in time" is then taken; should the toddler be magically made forever "senior"...? 😉 Before any excessive splutttering ensues as to that not at all being comparable to the nic mess....well....I say to that relative is relative....period. If you think my example is completely absurd...then how is it even possible for you to NOT find the nic equally absurd...? 😉

Talk to the man that created the list. A neutral arbitrator. You guys should know better than anyone how he works.


It is too bad it took 17 years to be the bottom guys but that is not the west problem and the west should not be made to pay for your problems.

Furloughed is furloughed, bottom of the list is bottom of the list. To damn bad. Those are the FACTS that govern this merger. You may not like the snap shot in time but that is how mergers work. You guys are the ones with all the experience with merger any other merger use an average or look into the future?

 

[EastUS1]

Talk to the man that created the list.

.... that is not the west problem....

Furloughed is furloughed, ....too damn bad.

1) Why bother? I've not the slightest concern with justifying his insane BS. That's your problem.

2) Nor are you the east's problem, and where and how you managed to achieve such an insane sense of both inflated self worth and literally unbelievable notions of entitlement must remain a mystery.

3) Except for those west folks now unfortunately furloughed, of course...that your side is demanding protection for....? Don't trip over yourself while tap dancing around that.....

Let us all know the first second you actually find some magical way to ever force the nic into existence. Have a good evening meanwhile.

 

[Ames]

Oh! Was that you in the pink tutu with your boxing gloves?....and you wonder why I was shaking my head? 😉

http://www.ebay.com/...p-/360399205431

No, but I saw that guy. I saw you take an upskirt photo of him when I looked back. Must be an affliction with you guys.

 

[Ames]

Just nevermind.....

As usual you don't have an intelligent response. Either it's 1500 words of nonsense or.... ummmmm, nevermind.

 

[Ames]

"You FOOLS always resort to name calling.." Don't you see any problem with that statement? Which side of this fight regularly uses "scab,scumbag, thieves" etc?

You really should give EAP a call.

You're the guy tracking my every post. Show me where I called you any of those things. You eastholes are fools, however. Those are two words I use regularly because it's not namecalling when it is a given fact. Like it or not the world sees you as the biggest fools in the industry.

 

[Move2CLT]

Feel free to hob-nob with your fellow wizards, those amongst the nicster-cult's most truly devout, to your heart's content with that BS. Imo; no, even SLIGHTLY sane human being, would/could ever imagine placing a person with a whopping 3 months over one with 17 years unbroken service. That some can even begin to warp their heads around such an obvious absurdity will unfailingly serve to both amaze and amuse.

A 19 year old and a 2 year old toddler walk to the front door. Both are then in the same relative position at that point in time. Which one is and should (sanely speaking for a moment here, if at all possible) be considered senior? If the 19 year old lifts the 2 year old up onto their shoulders, and a "snapshot in time" is then taken; should the toddler be magically made forever "senior"...? 😉 Before any excessive splutttering ensues as to that not at all being comparable to the nic mess....well....I say to that relative is relative....period. If you think my example is completely absurd...then how is it even possible for you to NOT find the nic equally absurd...? 😉

So much blather and no answer to my question.

Again, where was your 17 year guy on your list? The bottom? That's what I thought. And you were about to liquidate too? Really? Ya, you're lucky to even have gotten the slotting.

And save your verbal vomit for your wife. No one cares for it here.

 

[Ames]

None of that matters nor does Nic. We have moved WAY past that stuff.that was all Nic junk and that doesn t matter anymore.

Wanna bet?

 

[Pi brat]

You're the guy tracking my every post. Show me where I called you any of those things. You eastholes are fools, however. Those are two words I use regularly because it's not namecalling when it is a given fact. Like it or not the world sees you as the biggest fools in the industry.

Exactly what I would except to hear from the unstable.