OCT/NOV 2012 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[mrbreeze]

Not sure that I really need any info from you as it is usually incorrect. But not to worry I will keep you informed of the facts as they happen.

Yeah, you do that, mushroom.

breeze

 

[luvthe9]

I think DOH is pretty dead. Bean

Must have missed that in the roadshow. go figure.

 

[Pi brat]

That boat anchor is still a boat anchor and saved nothing.

You make a bold statement and now you back peddle. Not sure what you are talking about are you?

Figure it out yourself. Go find a copy of our contract, you can read right? Read the entire contract and come back and talk to us about the west work rules. Do yourself a favor and educate and inform yourself before making anymore foolish statements.

What west work rules would I find in MY, an east contract? I asked you a question big boy. Why are you afraid to answer it?

 

[Pi brat]

That boat anchor is still a boat anchor and saved nothing.

Doug Parker:

'First off, as to the … the stagnation of growth, for America West pilots since the
merger – what I will tell you is, and this is a hard thing to communicate to people but I believe
it with all my heart: If we didn’t do the merger with US Airways, you’d be in a lot worse
position. Frankly, I think as a 3 [year] F/O, you wouldn’t have a job."

Is that you clear? A whole 3 year F/O at the time of the merger? No wonder the anger and denial.

 

[Beancounter]

Must have missed that in the roadshow. go figure.

Oh c'mon Luv, even your lap dog Ted Reed is starting to come around to the reality of our situation.

Bean

 

[cleardirect]

Doug Parker:

'First off, as to the … the stagnation of growth, for America West pilots since the
merger – what I will tell you is, and this is a hard thing to communicate to people but I believe
it with all my heart: If we didn’t do the merger with US Airways, you’d be in a lot worse
position. Frankly, I think as a 3 [year] F/O, you wouldn’t have a job."

Is that you clear? A whole 3 year F/O at the time of the merger? No wonder the anger and denial.

Now you believe Parker?

But even if you want to believe Parker a 3 year F/O might have been furloughed. At the time a 17 year east F/O was furloughed. without the merger ALL east pilots would have been without a job. Not just Parker has said that, the investment bankers too.

Is that why you are so angry? Would not have mattered if you were a 17 year furloughed pilot 20 year F/O or a 30 year captain ALL of you would have been looking for a job.

 

[EastUS1]

But even if you want to believe Parker a 3 year F/O might have been furloughed. At the time ...............Would not have mattered if you were a 17 year furloughed pilot 20 year F/O or a 30 year captain ALL of you would have been looking for a job.

"might have been"...."Would not have"...."would have been". Still living in the past I see. I thought doing such to be utterly anathematic to the west's philosophy.

This temporal disconnect brings to mind an exchange from barely post-nic announcement time, when a west pup or kitten proudly proclaimed: "We are the future." I recall responding with "That's nice. Let us all know when you're the Now."

 

[Pi brat]

Now you believe Parker?

But even if you want to believe Parker a 3 year F/O might have been furloughed. At the time a 17 year east F/O was furloughed. without the merger ALL east pilots would have been without a job. Not just Parker has said that, the investment bankers too.

Is that why you are so angry? Would not have mattered if you were a 17 year furloughed pilot 20 year F/O or a 30 year captain ALL of you would have been looking for a job.

I've believed Parker on a lot of things. Had we been out of a job you would have been right there with us junior.

What do you not answer my questions? Do you need help? ????? That son is a question mark, indicating that I am asking you. Want to answer?

 

[luvthe9]

Oh c'mon Luv, even your lap dog Ted Reed is starting to come around to the reality of our situation.

Bean

No he's not, that's the wests interpretation. E for effort on your part though. I'll go for Judge Silver's reality.

 

[Beancounter]

No he's not, that's the wests interpretation. E for effort on your part though. I'll go for Judge Silver's reality.

Sorry to say I don't think you're in the same reality that the courts, our company, and the industry as a whole are in. Say, "hi" to Peter Pan and the Lost Boys, there in Neverland🙂

Bean

 

[Move2CLT]

I've believed Parker on a lot of things. Had we been out of a job you would have been right there with us junior.

What do you not answer my questions? Do you need help? ????? That son is a question mark, indicating that I am asking you. Want to answer?

Really AW? Were we in bankruptcy? No. Were we close to filing? No.

How long we're you guys in bankruptcy before coming close to liquidating? Years?

So give it a rest junior. We were no where near the street. You had one foot on it.

 

[Move2CLT]

Yeah, you do that, mushroom.

breeze

I like how you talk like an ass with a picture of your kid as your avatar.

 

[Move2CLT]

I have to say Move, you are getting the life beaten out of you tonight. As they say, 180 turn as requested. Frequency change approved............

What are you, an idiot? It's Claxon and luv....all stupid, no bite.

Now you STFU.

 

[Move2CLT]

5800 +s

Gents, thanks for props. Especially you east pilots who get it - I'm looking at you Claxon.

 

[Phoenix]

Sorry to say I don't think you're in the same reality that the courts, our company, and the industry as a whole are in. Say, "hi" to Peter Pan and the Lost Boys, there in Neverland🙂

Bean

The "industry as a whole"...? I have no idea about their sentiments, the supposed lock step unity they proclaim, or where and when they voiced such intimate knowledge and interest in the litte squabble. Somehow I suspect the industry as a whole rerpresents a wide range of opinions... From WTF are you talking about to how much money is in it for me?

Yes indeed, a wonderful example of WIDE range...