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OCT/NOV 2012 US Pilots Labor Discussion

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Reality is tough for you to swallow, we know. All the best

"tough"? It's obviously impossible for you. East-West-nic nonsense aside: If you're truly, so sufficiently delusional as to even begin to imagine that ANY of us can accurately predict the world's circumstances (much less the insane enviornment of aviation) ten years from now....You need help! Period! To be even able to call anyone's personal prediction for ten years hence "Reality" leaves NO doubt of that!
 
Ten years from now, most of the 330 and 350 captain bids will be AWA pilots- the junior Nicolau pilots hired in 87, 88 and 89 will be safely sequestered on reserve as 320 captains. We will coexist on peace, all in our rightful places. Peace

At least a single West had figured out the problem with Nic.

Peace, yup just like Northwest, American and Air Canada style peace.
 
Oh come on now, If it weren't for LOA 93 many of you would have no glimmer of joy in your lives!
Yeah, like having a crazy uncle who waves a loaded gun around the room. Without him, things would be boring. No one would die of accidental gunshot wound, of course, but it still would be boring.

Can I ask you to remind me how the east has no problem with being responsible for maintaining the anchor that holds down the pay for the rest of the industry, yet holding yourselves up as guardians of union principles when all you really defend in any case is your own personal self-interests. I have no answer to the pilots from virtually every other airline that seem to ask the same question.

IOW How do you lead the same folks you flip the middle finger to?
 
"tough"? It's obviously impossible for you. East-West-nic nonsense aside: If you're truly, so sufficiently delusional as to even begin to imagine that ANY of us can accurately predict the world's circumstances (much less the insane enviornment of aviation) ten years from now....You need help! Period! To be even able to call anyone's personal prediction for ten years hence "Reality" leaves NO doubt of that!
Yet you "offer" to have the west wait 5-10 years before we see the first benefit of the merger. You think that the APA will accept DOH and hand over 5 years and wait for the east pilots to get yours and leave.
 
Yet you "offer"....

You're apparently mistaking me for someone else. I've no interest in offering you any fantasies of the future whatsoever.
It's further my belief that attempts at reason or negotiations of ANY kind would be entirely futile with such as yourself and your fellow cultists. Were I running the union; I'd only waste time doing so purely to demonstrate the irrational intractability of your position. Make up whatever dreams you wish to. I'm quite content to live in actual reality/today/now. 😉
 
You're apparently mistaking me for someone else. I've no interest in offering you any fantasies of the future whatsoever.
It's further my belief that any attempts at reason or negotiation of any kind would be entirely futile with such as yourself and your fellow cultists. Make up whatever dreams you wish to. I'm quite content to live in actualy reality/today/now. 😉
Very well.

I don't expect to see any more posts about how the west should just wait 5-10 years while the east gets yours.
 
Very well.

I don't expect to see any more posts about how the west should just wait 5-10 years while the east gets yours.

Kid...I've already "got mine" as far as aviation and life in general go. Whether you can ever develop any patience or actual work ethic is entirely up to you...and not at all my concern. Here's a hopefully useful little tip for you: Don't ever expect anything to just be handed to you free of charge in this life..not even by Jolly Old St. Nic himself. 🙂 You've trusted that present, but haven't even been able to unwrap it. Try actually earning something on your own for a change.
 
IOW How do you lead the same folks you flip the middle finger to?

How do you lead anyone? A good prinicple to have is never asking/ordering them to do anything you're not ready and willing to do yourself....for example; earning your seniority by actual work. 😉 Leading such as yourself isn't a burden I'd have ever wished though. Twice now; you've provided strange fantasies of first a young child, now a crazy uncle, both armed with lethal weapons...and each, very clearly as you would paint it, completely out of control. The ease with which you envision weapons and uncontrolled use of them, without even imagining ANY responsible intervention from those surrounding whatsoever!....well....frankly marks you as a person I wouldn't much care to have around.
 
a crazy uncle, both armed with lethal weapons...and each, very clearly as you would paint it, completely out of control. The ease with which you envision weapons and uncontrolled use of them, without even imagining ANY responsible intervention from those surrounding whatsoever!....well....frankly marks you as a person I wouldn't much care to have around.
And yet you elected them to extort money from you under the guise of a union. I suppose all those years you spent were nothing more than siphoning off oxygen that could have been used by someone productively. But look what you gave back: LOA 93 and the squandering of a pension you never had to fight for.

"I got mine" Fitting.
 
"I got mine" Fitting.

If one has done so by actually EARNING it, then yes, most fitting indeed. You're nothing more than a would-be thief who would gleefully step ahead of those junior to myself, or ANYone if you could, that've also EARNED their places. I'll stick with the notion that you're no sort of person I'd want around in any tough scenario. The whole "All about MEEeee!" disease you're clearly infected with serves both to sicken as well as to identify you as the sort that couldn't be counted on.
 
If one has done so by actually EARNING it, then yes, most fitting indeed. You're nothing more than a would-be thief who would gleefully step ahead of those junior to myself, or ANYone if you could, that've also EARNED their places. I'll stick with the notion that you're no sort of person I'd want around in any tough scenario. The whole "All about MEEeee!" disease you're clearly infected with serves both to sicken as well as to identify you as the sort that couldn't be counted on.

Said the thief who is trying to salvage his miserable career off of our backs.

No go old man. You made your bed.....

Your theft has been checked.
 
Said the thief who is trying to salvage his miserable career off of our backs.

Dream on kid. I'm not complaining about any supposedly "miserable career" since it's been a fine run for the most part and is nearly done in any case. Were such dark magic even possible; I can promise you that under NO circumstances would I ever trade mine for yours, past, present or future....period.

The entire PHX operation could blow away in the next sand storm and I wouldn't lose anything I want ANY part of. Spare me your strange fantasies to the contrary.

On the other hand: You tag yourself as Move2CLT. What's that say about your wishes to salvage your pitiful "career" off the backs of others? 😉
 
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