On time performance with no carry on bags

[Travels2mch]

People Will always travel by Air...ALWAYS!

Not when the total trip time is shorter to drive they won't, and without all of the stress that goes with it. Are you drinking bong water??

 

[N965VJ]

<SNIP> Now you want to discuss when I see F/A's rolling their luggage, a small tote and that HARROD'S bag? I think that's 3 items, not 2.

I saw some guys coming off the SAN redeye one morning in PIT with a bunch of these things:

Final destination: the Rogers Sale.

Crews do not have any FAA restriction on carryon items AFAIK.

<SNIP>I used to date an F/A.

I’m glad you saw the error of your ways.

 

[Lovethesun]

Let Aladdin have to check her bag, even just at the end of a trip and wait the hour or more for it to come down the belt. Or worse, to not get it at all. We'll see how quickly her and other F/A's understand why we pack light and carry everything on. I've arrived at customer sites in travel clothes (usually jeans) too many times, which started me years ago carrying on.

Add the earlier arrival times needed at the airport, plus an extra hour or 2 at the end of a trip waiting for luggage, and all of a sudden driving to some of my customers is getting to be about the same amount of time as flying. You can bet if this continues for too long, more people will be taking to the roads and less people on the airplanes. Guess that'll leave more seats for non revs.

Sure we would be glad to check our carry on luggage. Then you can plan that you will never make your connection, because as a crewmember we change planes sometimes 6 times in a day, because we will be with everyone else at baggage claim for each flight that we do. So do not plan on those 30 minute connections anymore. Try having your suitcase taken by a passenger that does not even have a rollerboard with them and then having to fly for 4 days without anything with you. And we are not reimbursed for a passenger doing that.

Not when the total trip time is shorter to drive they won't, and without all of the stress that goes with it. Are you drinking bong water??

Obvious that you have not seen all the people traveling anymore!!!!!

 

[Travels2mch]

Sure we would be glad to check our carry on luggage. Then you can plan that you will never make your connection, because as a crewmember we change planes sometimes 6 times in a day, because we will be with everyone else at baggage claim for each flight that we do. So do not plan on those 30 minute connections anymore. Try having your suitcase taken by a passenger that does not even have a rollerboard with them and then having to fly for 4 days without anything with you. And we are not reimbursed for a passenger doing that.
Obvious that you have not seen all the people traveling anymore!!!!!

Try reading my post....I said check your bags at the end of a trip, I know you can't do it when you're working. And yeah I have seen all the people traveling, but I'm referring to the future if these restrictions continue.

 

[Dog Wonder]

This is a wash. Boarding goes faster, loading planes takes longer. No competitive advantage as all airlines follow the same rules.

Except the airlines most efficient at loading and unloading planes, and getting the bags to claim, will benefit in the long run. Not hard to figure out, harder to do if you couldn't get it done before.

 

[Lovethesun]

Now with all that snipping out of the way. I do appreciate all of our travelers!!! Especially our business travelers!!!! Do understand needing your laptop with you for you to be able to do work, etc. But you have to agree that the boarding and deplaning process does go much smoother and quicker without 100 roller boards, 20 hanging bags, and 100 computers. No one wants to put anything under their seats anymore they want to put everything overhead. Carry ons were originally small items that were placed under the seat. Yes, understand and agree that one should be able to have makeup, toothpaste, etc. with them. You can thank not the TSA, but the ones that want to blow up the aircraft's for this one. TSA just seems to go overboard, but this is for everyone's best interest for the moment. Crewmembers do not like what is currently taking place, but the flights are going much smoother with the boarding and deplaning process. The traveler that is seated in the rear of the aircraft would have to agree.
It does need to go back to one small carry on per passenger. This would help on time performance.
Now as far as PHL yes this is a crazy (terrible) situation needs to be corrected. We all agree on that one. There is no excuse for anyone to wait on their luggage as long as one does in PHL.

 

[ClueByFour]

How many personal care items does one need for a DAY TRIP? Hand Baggage has always been much more restrictive in Europe...people still fly!
Thank You!

Not on day trips or overnights. They have high speed trains for that.

There needs to be consistency in how each airline enforces their own rules. And in my experience, the ones that have the largest carry-ons are non-revs. Granted, the nature of non-revving makes it difficult to check your bags--but if we carry-on, we should be expected to follow the same rules as everyone else.

Funny you should mention that.

Before last week, I carried a 20" euro-legal rollaboard and a laptop attache or a 2-suit garment bag (that can be folded to be euro-legal if necessary) and a laptop attache. This getup passes muster in Europe and is well less than what most people carry on in the US.

Without the ability to take the roller and it's contents (notably the entire contents of my toilet kit), I'm simply not going to bother with a good amount of short and medium haul travel. This is going to cost some airline somewhere a good $10k/year, at a minimum and probably $20k on the top end. I'm not alone.

So for those of you who think it's great that boarding is so much easier (at the expense of a minimum of an extra 60-90 minutes combined on the front end and back for people who check bags) consider the alternative--people like me won't fly.

But hey--boarding will be that much quicker.

 

[IMisstheAladdinTrays]

Not on day trips or overnights. They have high speed trains for that.
Funny you should mention that.

Before last week, I carried a 20" euro-legal rollaboard and a laptop attache or a 2-suit garment bag (that can be folded to be euro-legal if necessary) and a laptop attache. This getup passes muster in Europe and is well less than what most people carry on in the US.

Without the ability to take the roller and it's contents (notably the entire contents of my toilet kit), I'm simply not going to bother with a good amount of short and medium haul travel. This is going to cost some airline somewhere a good $10k/year, at a minimum and probably $20k on the top end. I'm not alone.

So for those of you who think it's great that boarding is so much easier (at the expense of a minimum of an extra 60-90 minutes combined on the front end and back for people who check bags) consider the alternative--people like me won't fly.

But hey--boarding will be that much quicker.

Gosh sounds like Amtrak may be able to get back in the "Black" now...Good for them, as I know they have been furloughing lots of Train Attendants as of late. With ridership up it should be good for them. Good for you guys as well...that's what they call a WIN/WIN!

 

[aredeeyou22]

No...I guess you could DRIVE!

IMissAladdinTrays,

I bet you are really low maintenance and easy to fly with...a true, polished professional....LMAO 🙄

 

[N965VJ]

Amtrak is a black hole of funding.

The ICE in Germany is nothing short of awesome. I'm suspicious of the true cost, though.

 

[IMisstheAladdinTrays]

IMissAladdinTrays,

I bet you are really low maintenance and easy to fly with...a true, polished professional....LMAO 🙄

You have no idea! If by low maintenance you mean drama free trips...you are right on!

Thank You

 

[Kev3188]

Here's an interesting scenario for everyone:

In my city, there is a huge technology firm that sends all it's field reps out on Mondays. Prior to last Thursday, they all would try to carry on their luggage, only to have the A/C run out of bin space, which obviously then meant having to gate check their bags. 15-20 bags was the "norm," and the last Monday before the new restrictions, we set a new "record" by having to carry down 30 on one flight!

Now, with the new rules in place, most folks are checking everything, and these regular fliers have room to carry on their stuff....Seems win-win to me.

 

[jerseyfinn]

. . . So for those of you who think it's great that boarding is so much easier . . . consider the alternative--people like me won't fly. . .

One pax does not an airline make. But it does open up a slot in the UG queue for those who do fly.

Right now, all of this carry on mayhem is an inconvenience. The final shape and form of changes are yet to be known. I suspect that FFers will adapt and things will work out in the long run for them. It would be nice however to coerce those infrequent flyers to put thier stuff in the baggage hold to make boarding a smoother process.

Barry

 

[flygirl74]

And fewer people fly because checking carry ons makes shorter flights much more impractical, thus needing fewer crewmembers.

But keep checking those carry-ons!

The amount of bags do NOT determine the amount of f/a's. The FAA determines the minimal amount of f/a's it takes to deplane in 90 seconds...in an emergency. DUHHHHH.

 

[N965VJ]

<SNIP> The amount of bags do NOT determine the amount of f/a's.

Fewer flights = fewer crewmembers.