PHL LECP double dipping just like predecessor?

[PITbull]

The present LEC flying trips is commendable. He can meet with his members on a one on one basis. The F/A then have him face to face to tell him issues. Being closed in on an off property office does not allow him the exposure he and his membership needs. Walking the airports with his fellow brothers and sister, whether working flights or not is very important. How come this crap always comes on these threads before an election?

Someone just let the "dog" out of the office.... :down:

 

[PITbull]

When the employees loose their integrity. When they allow lazy presidents to blur the lines between union and company, disabling the very process that gives a union and themselves honor, allowing a company to pick and choose whom they wish to reward or punish (LA getting full sick "fly-back" for a holiday month - did anyone else get that, uh, bonus?).

The pilots are going through what the FAs should be doing. Enough is enough. Quit electing people just because they are "nice guys". Pretty much everyone is a "nice guy". Time to elect a smart person with a fire in their bellies, who, first, always puts FAs first. Then you will get back first your integrity, then your union. Demand transparency.

No truer words have been said on this thread!

 

[beachboy]

Aredeeyou22 Tore them up and I love it! You nailed it right on the head buddy. I still have all those newsletters. Even the one where John endorsed the former LECP of PHL only later to claim not to know her well. If you really think about the influence with his former newsletter could it be possible that by his endorsement swung the vote to bring us Laura Albert? 😱 😱 😱 😛h34r:
Oh my goodness. I need to sit and reflect for a moment. :huh:

 

[PHL BULL]

I hate to say it.. but I told ya so!

Was I the only person at USAir that received JM's monthly "newsletter", before he was LECP? I seem to remember reading it every month (possibly more frequently than that at times!) for the better part of 5 years.....

Now, that said, does anyone remember how he referred to our Union? Let's just say it was not pretty. He made a joke of the ENTIRE association, from the top down. This was not just hatred and venom towards an MEC, an LEC, or a specific AFA official, this was pure hatred for the entire organization. Repeatedly. In just about *EVERY* newsletter. Now, whether you agree with his (former?) opinions or not, whether you like the AFA or not, does it seem smart to vote this man in as LECP of USAir's largest domicile? Gimme a break! Do you think he is not sitting in his chair laughing at each and every one of us? Please... I would be laughing too!!

A few questions...

*Do you think it is odd that he kept us so well informed before he was in the AFA, and we hardly receive an LEC newsline now? I mean, I think that double- dippin' LA sent us more correspondence than JM, even if it was just the MEC E-lines pasted and re-sent (Geeeeez, how pathetic...)

*Are you surprised that someone with so much hatred for the AFA doesn't CARE if he flew ETB, on top of his 105? Get real! Joke's on us, people!

We were snowed, 100% Let's not let it happen again.

*Do you think that maybe, just maybe, he ran for LECP just to make a mockery of us, and show that someone who chastised the AFA and all that it stood for, could slide right into the LECP's chair? Laughable!


One more thing to get off of my chest, then I'll zip it....

I still find it incredibly unfortunate that people did not see thru the TG/LA debacle enough to realize that TG had one he!! of a passion for the FA's in PHL! Call her crazy (you would be too if u had to sit and watch LA do what she did), but she could represent the he!! out of a FA, and she knows the contract like the back of her hand. Honest and fair. If you were in the wrong, she had no problem telling you that either, but would equally represent you. Say what you will, if we had her knowledge, her experience, her "know- how", and her positive relationship with PHL management in that office now, we would be singin' a different tune. We lost out BIG TIME.

Now, let's hope that people are paying attention to the upcoming elections (yah, right), and that we get someone in there who actually has a passion for the job, and a clear vision of what the job should and should not entail (uh, no ETB's above 105 int'l pay; you should be busy enough with ~3000 FA's, duh.. we have to tell you that??? :blink: ).

I hope, at least, with the majority of the PIT people here for this election, they are paying attention to this as well, and not just worried about how many of them can cram onto the next Southwest flight home......

Peace.....

what a post...I agree...we need to put TG in local/70 If she will do it ...she has what it takes...TG please run and take back to local...

 

[ILOVETOFLY]

Where do you get your information? John McCorkle has made more personal sacrifices than anyone before him. Do you think AFA pays for JM's apartment? John bought a car to use in PHL, and leased a place to live so he could PROPERLY represent our union. This was his personal money…NOT AFA funded! That's another tower of junk taller than your blog! First, before you go posting information, get the facts straight. Call JM personally. Ask him before you spread vile rumors.

JM has done more to give our Union credibility than any of the previous people in office. I went to the office to meet John, and he was there on a weekend cleaning up piles of papers and other junk left by the previous tenants. When a F/A needed help with a problem, she called the Union office at 7 PM on a Sunday night and JM answered the phone! I was sitting at the table when this happened and everyone was stunned a person (OUR PRESIDENT!) answered the phone that late, again, on a weekend!

Now, anyone can reach a Union Rep seven days a week, 24 hours a day, and the PHL Union office has people on duty Monday through Friday. (The way it is supposed to be!) Ask JM how many days/hours he puts in that are above and beyond the expectations of a 9-5 job? We are the largest base for US Airways, yet our MEC doesn’t give him a larger budget, or extra people, to handle the daily workload respective to the number of people in PHL, and now even more that are added from PIT.

HERE ARE THE FACTS:

1) John flew MUC on Dec. 23; BRU on Dec. 27 and MXP on Dec. 31. Notice he worked on Saturdays, Sundays and Holidays.

2) He has only flown a total of nine (9) trips in the eleven (11) months he has been in office. All nine trips were ETB, so whatever list he may be on, it's a mistake. There is no company time flying, therefore, no over flying. Duh! How are nine trips in eleven months excessive when it's not even an average of one trip a month?

3) The former LEC P and LEC VP used to fly almost, if not, EVERY WEEKEND.

4) All the trips John flew were via the ETB. He did not pick up time off the AIL nor daily scheduling and he bids a PPO line so someone who would normally be on reserve, isn't.

5) Election time is right around the corner, so I guess it's time to start saying whatever someone wants without asking for the facts.

6) Even when John is on a trip, he takes a laptop and telephone with him on the road to check on problems in PHL and there is an immediate response, thanks to a man who knows how to use technology not just for entertainment, but for the greater good of F/A who are in need.

To reiterate, if you don't believe this response is true, call John McCorkle yourself and simply ask him to explain. In my opinion, only lazy morons subscribe to vicious lies, rumors and innuendos without first taking the time to get the truth....and it WILL set you free, honey!

BTW, it isn't winfall...it is correctly stated WIND FALL.

 

[PITbull]

Where do you get your information? John McCorkle has made more personal sacrifices than anyone before him. Do you think AFA pays for JM's apartment? John bought a car to use in PHL, and leased a place to live so he could PROPERLY represent our union. This was his personal money…NOT AFA funded! That's another tower of junk taller than your blog! First, before you go posting information, get the facts straight. Call JM personally. Ask him before you spread vile rumors.

JM has done more to give our Union credibility than any of the previous people in office. I went to the office to meet John, and he was there on a weekend cleaning up piles of papers and other junk left by the previous tenants. When a F/A needed help with a problem, she called the Union office at 7 PM on a Sunday night and JM answered the phone! I was sitting at the table when this happened and everyone was stunned a person (OUR PRESIDENT!) answered the phone that late, again, on a weekend!

Now, anyone can reach a Union Rep seven days a week, 24 hours a day, and the PHL Union office has people on duty Monday through Friday. (The way it is supposed to be!) Ask JM how many days/hours he puts in that are above and beyond the expectations of a 9-5 job? We are the largest base for US Airways, yet our MEC doesn’t give him a larger budget, or extra people, to handle the daily workload respective to the number of people in PHL, and now even more that are added from PIT.

HERE ARE THE FACTS:

1) John flew MUC on Dec. 23; BRU on Dec. 27 and MXP on Dec. 31. Notice he worked on Saturdays, Sundays and Holidays.

2) He has only flown a total of nine (9) trips in the eleven (11) months he has been in office. All nine trips were ETB, so whatever list he may be on, it's a mistake. There is no company time flying, therefore, no over flying. Duh! How are nine trips in eleven months excessive when it's not even an average of one trip a month?

3) The former LEC P and LEC VP used to fly almost, if not, EVERY WEEKEND.

4) All the trips John flew were via the ETB. He did not pick up time off the AIL nor daily scheduling and he bids a PPO line so someone who would normally be on reserve, isn't.

5) Election time is right around the corner, so I guess it's time to start saying whatever someone wants without asking for the facts.

6) Even when John is on a trip, he takes a laptop and telephone with him on the road to check on problems in PHL and there is an immediate response, thanks to a man who knows how to use technology not just for entertainment, but for the greater good of F/A who are in need.

To reiterate, if you don't believe this response is true, call John McCorkle yourself and simply ask him to explain. In my opinion, only lazy morons subscribe to vicious lies, rumors and innuendos without first taking the time to get the truth....and it WILL set you free, honey!

BTW, it isn't winfall...it is correctly stated WIND FALL.

Yup, you sure do love to fly...

Let me guess???? uh, who could we be??? Newbie spinning the tale???? John doesn't have any friends...oh wait a minute, its the other personality that just showed up on the scene.

WELL, chump, you have about 2 months to spin it good to win that seat again.

Hopefully, this time, the f/as in pHL will ban together, and you will need much, much more than 300 votes to win. You'll need much more than LUCK!

I'm sure will be seeing many more newbies on this thread as MCCORKEY is so good with the computer that he takes with him everywhere even to the shitter, from what i've been told!!!

SCARED ARE WE???? Your gravey train will be leaving the station very soon!!! Nudge your buddy and let him know.

 

[FlyGuyBWI]

Let me guess???? uh, who could we be??? Newbie spinning the tale???? John doesn't have any friends...oh wait a minute, its the other personality that just showed up on the scene.

WELL, chump, you have about 2 months to spin it good to win that seat again.

Hopefully, this time, the f/as in pHL will ban together, and you will need much, much more than 300 votes to win. You'll need much more than LUCK!

I'm sure will be seeing many more newbies on this thread as MCCORKEY is so good with the computer that he takes with him everywhere even to the shitter, from what i've been told!!!

SCARED ARE WE???? Your gravey train will be leaving the station very soon!!! Nudge your buddy and let him know.

Oh, heck -- I admit, I didn't read all that -- dry contact lenses, don't ya know. ANYWAY, philly is a special base -- y'all need PASSION first -- sorry JM, LA, even TG and MM couldn't carry you now -- Philly needs a crazy, passionate, smart, go-all-the-way-- Candidate. Y'all in PHL have a chance to do a really good thing for US F/A's. I hope good people step up, and I hope the PHL F/A's are heard!

 

[ILOVETOFLY]

Just wanna add my thought on this subject... I think they should all get their 105 hrs for their pay everymonth..and they should have to be in the office 5 days a week. If they want to fly on Sat or Sun(off days) they should be able to. BUT they should not be aloud to work both days..the company stopped the reserves from flying 7 days in a row...why should they be aloud to work
M-F and then pick up weekend trips? OR just do your union job that you were elected for..and stop taking the ETB trips that us starving reserves are trying to pick up! Give me 105 hrs everymonth..I will go in there M-F and not pick up ETB.

Just my 2 cents 😀

Then YOU run for office! It's isn't just Monday through Friday. It's every flippin' day...24-7. With so many ppl, it isn't a 9 to 5 event. John has more than paid his dues to the F/A who elected him. Nobody knows all the extra time he puts in at the expense of his personal life and NOT commuting home on the "5th day". It isn't just a paycheck to collect, it's passion and John has made a tremendous change even though some of the bloggers here fail to see it.

 

[ILOVETOFLY]

C'mon people...can't you guys unite, pick an intelligent, honest group to run on a ticket that will unify all the f/as to go up against management. You guys really need an honest to goodness change in leadership.

There will be NO change, if you guys don't VOTE change!!!

You need candidates who will ensure transparency in how they spend your dues, their schedule and dependability, integrity, eithical responsibility and ccountibility to the group!

THIS TIME, DON'T TAKE YOUR EYE OFF THE GOAL; AND THE GOAL IS CHANGE LEADERSHIP AND SO COMES CHANGE IN THE WAY BUSINESS IS CONDUCTED!!!

I write this to you because I still hear from many f/as who e-mail me regarding their utter frustration with their plight and the lack of change specifically when the company is profiting hundred's of millions, and the union is only changing the dues which have risen while all of you are in concessionary contracts.

I've met some pretty unique and hard working, passionate folks based in PHL...they are there, ask them to run. Look among yourselves, its right in front of you!!!

If you make change in leadership in your base, they can put the MECP on notice and the negotiating committee, either change business as usual, or they are out too. You guys have the vote to do it in PHL.

The only base LECPs I trusted in my term was BOS and LGA, and they are still in office. They are your alies and are passionate about the group. I am sure they will assit any newcomers who ask for assistance. And, those bases will unite and be the main f/a group's representatives against those base leaders who fear management, who will be cast to the way side, and this group will go up against managment to FORCE CHANGE and get a joint contract to go nto the future while the profits are coming in.

Trust me guys, its just not that hard to run a local office...its being at the "round table" of the MEC will YOU will make an imprint. Your current leadership in PHL are once again, waiting for the MECP to tell HIM what to do at your local.

Your LECP will just continue the same-old;same-ole and staycompletely under the radar specifically because the election is coming around. He will lie, knive, scheme, and double-talk his way back in office for 3 more years collecting your dues $$$. He will tell you what you want to hear, and in the end...you guys will be at the same old place you are now...no where.

Keep in mind, McCorkey won on less than 300 votes in your base. Support one candidate for LECP to go up against him and unite all your votes. Don't have too many folks run for president, as this will take away from votes to get this sneak out of office.

NOT hard to run a local office? Have you spent any time in the PHL office? Try it and then suggest that it's "not hard"!!!

 

[PITbull]

Then YOU run for office! It's isn't just Monday through Friday. It's every flippin' day...24-7. With so many ppl, it isn't a 9 to 5 event. John has more than paid his dues to the F/A who elected him. Nobody knows all the extra time he puts in at the expense of his personal life and NOT commuting home on the "5th day". It isn't just a paycheck to collect, it's passion and John has made a tremendous change even though some of the bloggers here fail to see it.

John doesn't commute home because he's flying ETB when he can land the trip he wants to fly or swap with.

Try being honest...but, that's just never been your style now has it? If McCorkey cares about these ethical issues, he should be furnishing his entire flight pay, both AFA company fpl, AFA fpl and ETB the past 6 months...DOES HE HAVE THE BALLS???

Paid his dues to the f/as in PHL???? What a bunch of crap! How long has he been in there? 8 months? I would bet its over 160 hours a month.

Spin away!!!!

 

[ILOVETOFLY]

Ok, here is what I’ve found out.

John Claims 108 per month in Flight Pay Loss (FPL) per the direction of Cindy Simone in Tempe. Labor Relations has set this amount.

Because PHL is such a large base with over something like 3000 flight attendants, the base has the budget to support this amount. Charlotte would also have about the same amount of FPL for the LECP and smaller bases would have less, it is based on membership count and established by the company.

Our AFA Constitution and Bylaws (C&B) has compensation guidelines for LEC officers, it covers and sets limits on mileage reimbursements, housing, expenses, meals…it’s found at www.afanet.org it however, does not discuss how officers are to use the pay in the local. This is done because different councils at all AFA carriers have different types of reimbursement from the airline for union work.

Being previously involved in union work I will tell you that it is not a 9-5 job like some on this board seem to think. I had folks calling me at all hours of the day and night and there is no way to control that. As a rep, your number/email is out there and you are going to get those calls. I can tell you from my experience that you will put in many hours working for the membership that you are never reimbursed for.

If our reps are in the office from 9-5 Monday thru Friday should we expect them to take our call at 9 PM on Saturday because scheduling is trying to pull something…should they take the call?

Let me put it this way…you just finished doing a one day and scheduling asks you to do a PBI turn, are you going to do it? It’s the same thing. I hear from folks that John calls them back and has worked on their behalf after hours and even from his trips that he’s working. I have personally seen evidence on emails forwarded to me that he is responding at 2AM, are we paying him for that time? Would you do the same?

Some may not like the job he is doing or that he is doing enough, some may have issue with “idea†he is taking time from others but you cant make everyone happy…ESPECIALLY in Union work.

ETB trips are First Come, First Serve any time he takes off the board would be awarded just like anyone else there are no special rules for John. I personally don’t agree with taking 108 hours of FPL and then also flying on top of that, but any line holder that SAPs in 108 could do the same thing, it does not violate any AFA guidelines. I also found out that John does not claim all the expense money he could and never claims any expenses for the days he is flying because the company is paying per diem.

I want folks to know the facts...

Thank you for the facts, Andy. As a former Union rep, nobody can understand what it's like unless you walk in the shoes. John gives much more to our PHL F/A than he is paid by the Union. Again, thanks for speaking the truth.

 

[Twicebaked]

Then YOU run for office! It's isn't just Monday through Friday. It's every flippin' day...24-7. With so many ppl, it isn't a 9 to 5 event. John has more than paid his dues to the F/A who elected him. Nobody knows all the extra time he puts in at the expense of his personal life and NOT commuting home on the "5th day". It isn't just a paycheck to collect, it's passion and John has made a tremendous change even though some of the bloggers here fail to see it.

What exactly has he done? Name ONE THING that he has done for Local 70...just one!

You have a reserve group of people (about 400-500 on any given month) that ARE NOT MAKING A LIVABLE WAGE!!!

What is he doing to help this situation?????What????????

His ass is flying ETB and/or over flying the AIL while others are barely making ends meet.

I want to know.... WHAT IS HE DOING??????

 

[ILOVETOFLY]

Yup, you sure do love to fly...

Let me guess???? uh, who could we be??? Newbie spinning the tale???? John doesn't have any friends...oh wait a minute, its the other personality that just showed up on the scene.

WELL, chump, you have about 2 months to spin it good to win that seat again.

Hopefully, this time, the f/as in pHL will ban together, and you will need much, much more than 300 votes to win. You'll need much more than LUCK!

I'm sure will be seeing many more newbies on this thread as MCCORKEY is so good with the computer that he takes with him everywhere even to the shitter, from what i've been told!!!

SCARED ARE WE???? Your gravey train will be leaving the station very soon!!! Nudge your buddy and let him know.

What the he!! did you just say? Could you make your comments a little more understandable and not in code? Who's the chump if you are not running for office and just sitting on your butt spewing words?

 

[PITbull]

Andy,

You forgot something. Cindy Simone doesn't set any fpl for the base. If McCorkey is on RSV one month, he can only collect 73 hours of AFA company FPL. If he is a line holder, HE WAS NEVER "RED CIRCLED" TO COLLECT 105.. HELL NO lec SHOULD BE COLLECTING 108 BECAUSE THE MAX IS 105 AND FOR ONLY THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN "RED CIRCLED".

Whether you are an AFA rep or a line f/a YOU CAN ONLY COLLECT OR FLY 105 IF YOU'VE BEEN RED CIRCLED IN in 2005 before the commencement of ETB . How I know this you may ask. I was in on the ground floor when it was negotiated.

I had the list of ALL F/AS WHO WERE RED CIRCLED FOR 105. And it ain't mccorkey. So if he is being paid by Cindi simone's approval 105 or 108...it's contractually illegal, that means the MECP got involved and asked for them to do McCordkey a favor
Someone better contact the other MEC members and let them know if this is going on!!![/b]


Not permitted for any line f/a to do. NONE, Zero, Zip!!!

 

[ILOVETOFLY]

What exactly has he done? Name ONE THING that he has done for Local 70...just one!

You have a reserve group of people (about 400-500 on any given month) that ARE NOT MAKING A LIVABLE WAGE!!!

What is he doing to help this situation?????What????????

His ass is flying ETB and/or over flying the AIL will other are barely making ends meet.

I want to know.... WHAT IS HE DOING??????

Putting out all the fires that F/A have on an hourly basis. Uhhhh...let's see....the ppl who get fired and need representation. Or to keep ppl from BEING fired. Let me think...PPL call to find out if they are legal for trips...a lot...so much that John posted a cheat sheet...and still ppl call to ask, "Am I legal?" Other stuff you and I are not allowed to know because of confidentiality. Frankly, I appreciate someone in the Union office that keeps their mouth shut about F/A personal issues.

Hmmm I would suggest that you spend some time in the office and see exactly what the Union is doing, or better yet. if you have solutions other than idle chatter, volunteer to help the Union or run for office if you can do a better job. It appears that those on this website without Union experience may think John just sits on his thumbs and does nothing all day. Why don't you find out for yourself?

We are in contract negations right now and John is at the helm keeping the ship steady in some serious gale winds. If all the bloggers who are on here would try to help each other rather than tear ppl apart, we might have change. Have you ever heard of "divide and conquerâ€￾? We need one voice, not many pulling in different directions.