Unionization

[Awa Contract]

You have restated the same wrong facts that the IAM keeps repeating hoping the can make them true so they look better. Once again I will correct you guys.
A. The work was lost BEFORE the TEAMSTERS were on the property. Get it -- BEFORE
B. EVERYONE that lost thier job to Franke outsourcing had the chance to come back to work with thier pay seniority intact. That means unlike your contract where they loose thier pay after a time, our guys came back top of the scale. Not all wanted to come back and I can understand their reasons, but THEY ALL GOT THE CHANCE. And do not forget that this chance was because of the TEAMSTERS.
Teamsters since 911 have increased our numbers and we have recieved our scheduled pay increases with only 2 guys on furlough. That is a record that you can not touch.

 

[700UW]

Aeroman and Timco, how many HP ibt represented mechanics are there overhauling your fleet since the ibt has been unable to get the work back in-house?

 

[delldude]

So you have to bring more people back due to new A/C deliveries....smoke and mirrors
😱
and there are IAM people coming back from furlough due to displacements....so its a moot point. 😉

and aside from that,the IAM negotiaited contract will bring back all your outsourced work and employees. 😉

 

[Awa Contract]

Wrong again there bucko -

Under the Teamsters the Phase Checks started up and that was a large part of the increase and then the back shops were opened again. You know back shops - oh thats right you guys don't have them anymore. Another IAM improvement? And did you miss the point that the ALL had the chance to come back at the top of the pay scale? If so let me repeat it - They ALL had the chance to come back at full pay seniority under the TEAMSTERS.

 

[awausairtech]

Aeroman and Timco, how many HP ibt represented mechanics are there overhauling your fleet since the ibt has been unable to get the work back in-house?

SEE Post 151 A.
A. The work was lost BEFORE the TEAMSTERS were on the property. Get it -- BEFORE
THE TEAMSTERS HAVE NOT SOLD OUT WORK THEY HAVE BROUGHT BACK WORK IN-HOUSE UNLIKE THE IAM.......

OPEN YOUR EYES AND YOUR MINDS THE TRUTH IS OUT FOR YOU OR
GO BACK TO THE IAM AND GET A FRESH GLASS OF KOOL-ADE.

Fact IBT Has The Top Contracts!!!!!!

HAVE A NICE IBT DAY!

 

[awausairtech]

So you have to bring more people back due to new A/C deliveries....smoke and mirrors
😱
and there are IAM people coming back from furlough due to displacements....so its a moot point. 😉

and aside from that,the IAM negotiaited contract will bring back all your outsourced work and employees. 😉

SEE Post 151 and 154..
Under the Teamsters the Phase Checks started up and that was a large part of the increase and then the back shops were opened again. You know back shops - oh thats right you guys don't have them anymore.

[quote name='delldude' ( the IAM negotiaited contract will bring back all your outsourced work and employees.)

More smoke and mirrors from the iam, WHAT A320'S and what the 737's that are being PHASED OUT!!!! WE LOST 3 MORE 737's THIS WEEK...

So DELL TELL US UNDER THIS IAM (negotiated contract)Just what aircraft will the IAM DO C-CHECK'S ON AT USAIR???????.

DID YOUR STRONG SCOPE FORGET TO ADD THE E-190's???
DP Knows were they will go for c-check and I bet he did not tell the IAM about ACE and what they put money in this MERGER for!!!!!(OR WHAT ACE WILL GET OUT OF IT!)

Common Sense 101.

HAVE A GOOD IBT DAY. 🙄

 

[700UW]

The ibt failed to bring the work back inhouse.

The IAM/US CBA scope lamguage covers the 190s, it only allows the outsourcing of the 757, 767 and 50% of the 737s.

Don't let the facts get in your way.

We do C-checks, S-checks and Q-checks.

Just like Aeroman and Timco does to the HP fleet.

 

[700AW]

The ibt failed to bring the work back inhouse.

The IAM/US CBA scope lamguage covers the 190s, it only allows the outsourcing of the 757, 767 and 50% of the 737s.

Don't let the facts get in your way.

We do C-checks, S-checks and Q-checks.

Just like Aeroman and Timco does to the HP fleet.

Since you think that the IBT can just" bring it back in" so easy, then why did the IAM let the bk judge do away with the heavies you did???????
we know you answer... 2 bk's... judge mitchell... the members voted to accept.... is there any other explanation for it?????
who does the heavies on what the east does not do...Aroman... Timco... so what you say about them working our birds says the say for yours!!!!!!!

 

[700UW]

Apparently you have no concept of the section 1113 c of the bankruptcy code, the court abrogated the IAM/US CBA, the IAM and the membership have no control over that process.

Negotiations took place with the company and an agreement could not be reached.

The company with the courts blessing sent a final offer out to the membership and the members ratified it. Seems you have a problem understanding what happened, too bad you can't accept the facts.

US Airways IAM represented mechanics overhaul the 737s and all the Airbus A320 aircraft.

ACTS overhauls the A330s and the 767s and the mechanics are IAM represented, ST MAE does the 757s but some of them have been done in-house recently.

Are Aeroman or Timco Unionized?

 

[fanlube]

Apparently you have no concept of the section 1113 c of the bankruptcy code, the court abrogated the IAM/US CBA, the IAM and the membership have no control over that process.

Negotiations took place with the company and an agreement could not be reached.

The company with the courts blessing sent a final offer out to the membership and the members ratified it. Seems you have a problem understanding what happened, too bad you can't accept the facts.

US Airways IAM represented mechanics overhaul the 737s and all the Airbus A320 aircraft.

ACTS overhauls the A330s and the 767s and the mechanics are IAM represented, ST MAE does the 757s but some of them have been done in-house recently.

Are Aeroman or Timco Unionized?

Work is farmed out under IBT contract, contract bad! Work is farmed out under IAM contract, contract good! Do they give you treats everytime you repeat that. And because ACTS does it and they are IAM that also makes it okay, what is the pay difference at ACTS vs TIMCO what about PEMCO I beleive they are IAM vs MAE I bet if you look at these Vendors the pay and benefits of being union vs non-union probably isn't much. And the 757 check that went to PIT how many guys got called back for that, watching the bids not to many but the IAM is going to get guys back!

 

[delldude]

So DELL TELL US UNDER THIS IAM (negotiated contract)Just what aircraft will the IAM DO C-CHECK'S ON AT USAIR???????.

its not C-checks like you guys do...its the meat and potato checks....heavies.as for the aircraft its spelled out in the IAM agreement which was gutted out due to the existance of your type of carrier and operating arena.

WHAT A320'S and what the 737's that are being PHASED OUT!!!! WE LOST 3 MORE 737's THIS WEEK...

where you been? they been unloading aging airframes of both types.737's are coming up on some very costly lap joint repairs and the 320's are made from junk aluminum and older ones are already running into heavy repair costs.
besides they have to make room in CLT to do YOUR aircraft heavy maintenance that isn't covered under YOUR superior IBT contract.

DID YOUR STRONG SCOPE FORGET TO ADD THE E-190's???

the decision in Federal Court in favor of IAM was the biggest victory and proof of the IAM superior scope.A federal judge ruled once and for all,backing up the strongly defined and well written language that the company and Gerry Glass didn't comprehend.If you weren't sleeping,you would have realized that any additional aircraft to come into mainline was/is and always will be covered under our superior scope...its our work-proven in Federal Court.

DP Knows were they will go for c-check and I bet he did not tell the IAM about ACE and what they put money in this MERGER for!!!!!(OR WHAT ACE WILL GET OUT OF IT!)

hey ACE....apparentlly you aren't aware that they paid ace holdings their investment monies back?

Under the Teamsters the Phase Checks started up and that was a large part of the increase and then the back shops were opened again.

more IBT propaganda for all....funny FAA wants to see some of the maintenance done in house so they can police it on property.....maybe IBT should thank FAA for pressuring AWA to bring the light weight checks in....just like they did at WN and are doing to others.more IBT BS for Votes...

so here we sit with our former industry leading IAM negotiated contract which was gutted and molded into the likes of HP and Jet Blue style contracts and you have no concept of what a good one was or is as you have only recent experience in aviation contractual endeavors still hung in second gear in your present neg's.first contracts are exactly what they are....a begining.....unfortunately ours came to an end..... :mf_boff: I hope you never enjoy the same fate.... 😉 we can all harp all day long,place blame on unions,membership and management but in the end good people had their lives changed in many drastic ways and for some it will never come back and for some it will continue to change

 

[Awa Contract]

Poor 700 - stock clerks are not in the mechanic vote

 

[robbedagain]

what is the difference between a C-check and heavy?

 

[700UW]

Until I see something official from the NMB, I dont believe anything you post.

 

[Awa Contract]

You mean you did not get your personal phone call from Fred. Awwwww