US Airways Pilots Labor Thread 12/8-12/15

[exB717Flyer]

I have lots of friends here out East with late '80's hire dates who have all said they have lost everything ...

Not the fault of the Westies. Why do you feel entitled to restitution from us? If George Nicolau thought that was fair he would've ruled thusly.

All you westies should expect the bitter battle you have proclaimed...

I beg your pardon? Who started this war?

 

[luvthe9]

you will still be under loa 93. Smart.

I bet you will see a vote to bring the West down to LOA 93 sometime soon.

 

[V1cut]

I beg your pardon? Who started this war?

The best answer is ALPA.

Whether it was ALPA west, or ALPA East...or just ALPA National...by their failures in policy and half-hearted attempts at appeasement to all parties (impossible) they have "created" this monster....

We will all live with it, to be sure...but you gloat too early...the bloodletting hasn't even begun yet...

You have no doubt noticed how quiet it's been recently on these boards..

Most of us are done talking...

discuss amongst yourselves as necessary.

 

[fodase]

DAL/NWA is out, want to guess how it went down? one clue, not DOH.

 

[V1cut]

DAL/NWA is out, want to guess how it went down? one clue, not DOH.

I see...two ALPA carriers' slug it out and get some result that you feel is relevent to USAirways..who USED to be an ALPA carrier...

Get ready...all you tough guys get to prove your metal...and soon.

Any more questions for me?....I'm almost outta time for this BS....like all my '87 friends...

 

[Tiger 1050]

Any one expecting a quick resolution is fooling themselves. This will be settled on appeal sometime not in 2009. It doesn't matter who wins the upcoming trial, USAPA or AOL.

That's probably true. However, you assume the Ninth Circuit will hear your appeal. Remember it is not automatic...

 

[cleardirect]

Any one expecting a quick resolution is fooling themselves. This will be settled on appeal sometime not in 2009. It doesn't matter who wins the upcoming trial, USAPA or AOL.

I spoke to one of the attorneys yesterday. I asked that very question about appeals. His short answer was this.

If the west wins this law suit whatever judgment that is brought down goes forward. Even if USAPA appeals, the Nicolau becomes the law of the land. No delay, no postponement. So the only thing an appeal will accomplish is a huge legal bill. If on the off chance that USAPA’s appeal is successful then it would have to be fixed at that time. So USAPA can hope for as long a delay as you want. How many years would you wait? With only a 20% chance of winning.

If anyone doubts this think about OJ. He is appealing his conviction and sentence. But in the mean time he is sitting in jail. I know that it is criminal and civil but the principle is the same.

An appeal will not stop the judgment.

So feel free to hang your hopes on an appeal. Feel free to spend all the money you want on Mr. Seham. But if USAPA is found to be in the wrong the Nicolau goes forward no delay. That will be sometime in February 2009.

 

[cleardirect]

DAL/NWA is out, want to guess how it went down? one clue, not DOH.

Could you post the list? This will be very interesting.

 

[InternationalShannon]

Funny, and what is the new law of the land? oh yeah, binding arbitration, just like alpa. Now you will get the Nic. and you will pay damages to the west thru your dues and you will still be under loa 93. Smart.

OMG THE NIC!! I heard about that!! Paris hilton got the Nic!! no wait...she got the herp...wait...the herp got her and wanted to know how long it had to live......
nevermind.
:-D

 

[EastUS]

OMG THE NIC!! I heard about that!! Paris hilton got the Nic!! no wait...she got the herp...wait...the herp got her and wanted to know how long it had to live......
nevermind.
:-D

"Paris hilton got the Nic!! no wait...she got the herp..." Nic=the herp?? Arrgh!...That settles it for all time = NO WAY am I EVER gonna' vote for anything that implements either!!

 

[Metroyet]

I have lots of friends here out East with late '80's hire dates who have all said they have lost everything ...but will not let their seniority go with a fight to the bitter end on this...

All you westies should expect the bitter battle you have proclaimed...

You're going to get it....if it takes years of appellate processes...

Happy trails...

Let it come tough guys...

 

[nycbusdriver]

That's probably true. However, you assume the Ninth Circuit will hear your appeal. Remember it is not automatic...

Back at ya!

We don't know who will be doing the appealing yet, do we?

 

[fodase]

DAL/NWA Arbitration results are almost identical to NIC. 5 year fence around the heavies with a ratio list. DAL guys senior to nwa guys with longer service. Hmmm where did I see an arbitration like that before?

 

[pilotn79]

I have lots of friends here out East with late '80's hire dates who have all said they have lost everything ...but will not let their seniority go with a fight to the bitter end on this...

All you westies should expect the bitter battle you have proclaimed...

You're going to get it....if it takes years of appellate processes...

Happy trails...

When you do get to court be sure you show up on time. I'm sure Judge Wake was not too impressed with that late arriving USAP. Oh, one other thing, you sure look impressive in those pilot uniforms.

 

[NiceLandingCaptain]

I have lots of friends here out East with late '80's hire dates who have all said they have lost everything ...but will not let their seniority go with a fight to the bitter end on this...

All you westies should expect the bitter battle you have proclaimed...

You're going to get it....if it takes years of appellate processes...

Happy trails...

V one -

Were you thumping your chest as you wrote that post? Grunting like a Marine? Ooo rahhh!

Come on man, if the judge rules in favor of the West, I'm sure your '87 friends will live on - they just have to figure out where their individual true limits are whilst living with LOA 93. Besides, the West is gradually coming to usapa. Our votes, plus the rational East votes will go a long way in determining the outcome of any future TA. So, the boastful attitude you have bestowed upon them may, quite possibly, be all for naught.

In any case, someone is going to find out what crow tastes like........ :bleh: