US Pilots Labor Discussion

[luvn737s]

You made a mistake...big deal. Man up, move on. But we can still pick on you about it!!!

Driver 😛

What mistake? What about my first post is incorrect?

Yes there's an APU battery on the 330, but it is not the exclusive source of power to start the APU.

I should have left both posts in, but my intent was not to confuse the issue, just to humble NYC a little with the facts. Futile effort I suppose.

Do you think former Capt. Wells can exchange her Lifelock for a few sessions at Sylvan Learning on the A330 systems?

 

[crazystnic]

It looks to me like the APU starter could be fed from AC Bus 2 through the APU TR.

glad you guys who dont' fly the 330 Like Jim and Luvn are now such experts...

It's has nothing to do with the technical aspects of the 330 but everything to do with the companies behavior.

 

[Phoenix]

It Jerry with a "J" and yes I did. Its right there next to my framed copy of LOA 93.

A "G" works just fine, in honor of Gerry Elbridge. 😀

 

[luvthe9]

Be kind to luvthe9 - he apparently hasn't gotten over US' ETOPS certification attempts after the US/PI merger. The POI finally had to put it bluntly - "Look, take PI's ETOPS program, everywhere it says PI substitute US, then we'll approve it." 😀

Jim

No Jim. I will be the first to say Piedmont was a great airline with some very intelligent International moves.

 

[Phoenix]

glad you guys who dont' fly the 330 Like Jim and Luvn are now such experts...

It's has nothing to do with the technical aspects of the 330 but everything to do with the companies behavior.

Just because someone is a Boeing dinasaur doesn't mean they are ignorant, not necessarily. But if someone prefers their own answer to that of two captains that were there then they aren't ignorant either but a choice word or two does exist.

 

[A320 Driver]

What mistake? What about my first post is incorrect?

Yes there's an APU battery on the 330, but it is not the exclusive source of power to start the APU.

I should have left both posts in, but my intent was not to confuse the issue, just to humble NYC a little with the facts. Futile effort I suppose.

Do you think former Capt. Wells can exchange her Lifelock for a few sessions at Sylvan Learning on the A330 systems?

I don't think she needs any. Even if the airplane behaved as it should have (and IMO, it didn't), there were a lot more issues. A lot of judgement issues and had I been there, I hope I would have made the same decision she did not to accept the airplane. Sometimes SMART trumps LEGAL. Experience, wisdom...they aren't punchlines. They can be the difference between success and failure. It is a shame that this seniority fight has gone so far that some cheer the company on as they try to trash the reputation of a good Captain in the name of damage control.

Driver <_<

 

[Claxon]

What mistake? What about my first post is incorrect?

Yes there's an APU battery on the 330, but it is not the exclusive source of power to start the APU.

I should have left both posts in, but my intent was not to confuse the issue, just to humble NYC a little with the facts. Futile effort I suppose.

Do you think former Capt. Wells can exchange her Lifelock for a few sessions at Sylvan Learning on the A330 systems?

Read the account of how the honorable Capt Wells dealt with the aircraft with the CP. Instead of trying to help figure out the problem, the Franke Air doctrine of dealing with labor surfaced immediately. The only thing Franke Air C/P wants to know is this- "Are you refusing to fly the airplane?" This is right out of the Bill Franke playbook. It must be required reading for all management pilots at your airline. Instead of dealing with the issue, the pilot is not thanked, asked what is wrong,offered support or advice. No, the only interaction is will she or will not she take the airplane across the Atlantic with a problem. Classic Franke Air response. The judge was obviously not amused. The best outcome would be for Franke Air to have an injunction served on it. It is a disgusting company.It earns the ranking of 10 most hated companies in America,year after year, and it does so in an honestly disgusting fashion. And from the looks of it, the western disciples of Franke, the new scabs, buy into it. They are just as disgusting.

 

[Claxon]

I don't think she needs any. Even if the airplane behaved as it should have (and IMO, it didn't), there were a lot more issues. A lot of judgement issues and had I been there, I hope I would have made the same decision she did not to accept the airplane. Sometimes SMART trumps LEGAL. Experience, wisdom...they aren't punchlines. They can be the difference between success and failure. It is a shame that this seniority fight has gone so far that some cheer the company on as they try to trash the reputation of a good Captain in the name of damage control.

Driver <_<

Are you surprised? The western hiring consisted for years of the outcasts of the industry, right up there with low tier freight companies. Only recently has it changed. The early group scabbed at the first opportunity. It seems however, the newer western have slid to the level of their slimy senior disciples of Franke. The early ones were hand picked by Franke, the most evil airline CEO ever.

 

[A320 Driver]

Are you surprised? The western hiring consisted for years of the outcasts of the industry, right up there with low tier freight companies. Only recently has it changed. The early group scabbed at the first opportunity.

Good grief...

Driver <_<

 

[john john]

Who said anything about the main batteries!?!?!

You sure didn’t
That was the point

 

[SparrowHawk]

And you think this helps?????

We had lunitics leaving text messages, pasting "BLOCK + :16" stickers all over the place. If we lose in court, it won't be because we wrote up airplanes. It will be because some idiots left a trail of breadcrumbs for the company to follow all the way to our wallets.

Good grief...

Driver <_<

Which would be "Exhibit A" as to why you don't pull that kind of crap. Near as I can tell the "Work To Rule/Safety Actions" virtually never work.

 

[mikey60]

Hi Gerry. You went to college, right? Welcome back. We are glad to have you here again. Did you frame your diploma?

Congradulations, another clown school grad...joining the likes of Trader, CS. Sort of like a prerequisite for being a awe west pilot

 

[mikey60]

The heat and humidity of the south must be rotting your brain. You forget that we are flying across the Pacific now. Are you so arrogant to think that somehow the Atlantic is more dangerous or difficult to fly than the Pacific?

Not "we"." They " fly" over the Pacific . "You" cant leave the sight of land so "you" shouldn't even be in the conversation.

 

[N924PS]

Congradulations

Good thing spelling wasn't a prerequisite at USAF Test Pilot School or for employment at USAirways...........

 

[Move2CLT]

Are you surprised? The western hiring consisted for years of the outcasts of the industry, right up there with low tier freight companies. Only recently has it changed. The early group scabbed at the first opportunity. It seems however, the newer western have slid to the level of their slimy senior disciples of Franke. The early ones were hand picked by Franke, the most evil airline CEO ever.

Speaking of scabs, how are the two scabs working for USAPA doing?