US Pilots Labor Discussion

[mikey60]

Why is it some of them are east pilots?

Like traderjerk, yea you keep some real good company.

 

[HPearlyretiree]

So one of you westies finally are telling the truth. The west is not reminding the east that they (some that is ) are making less than the west and in their opinion have a better contract than the east. The truth is you GREEDY pricks are only worried about you wallet and if the kids are going to be able to go to private school and the "wife " will be driving to the supermarket in a Acura or a Honda. Personally I hope your property values fall another 30%, the "wife" dumps your a$$ for some border crosser and your kids end up in reform school. Oh yea have a nice evening.

Wow, you guys calling the group you tried to screw Greedy? Oh my sides! Ignoring binding arbitration, forming a new union, not living up to your agreements? The west is greedy because they have stood up to the thugs that can't live up to their agreements?

Thanks for the laugh, how is life in Bizzaro-land?

 

[Move2CLT]

Your right, many of us wont have it bad and were not going to leave those behind getting screwed by a bunch of cry baby f/o's from the west.

Why not? You've done it before.

 

[mikey60]

As usual with old people who reside in the past you miss it entirely. No one is making fun of the PBGC, I am making fun of the fact that back in 1800's when you were hired you were told to expect a million dollar pension but you gave that away then blamed ALPA for your own stupidity. The time is near now and even your circus clown cleary knows this.

I doubt very highly you were ever in the United States Military, they teach things like HONOR and INTEGRITY in the US military. Two things you have been proven to be without. Do not further dishonor yourself or the military with that lie.

Injunction

Just to bring you back to the 21st century ij back when most of us were hired a million dollar pension was a lot it would give you about 40-45 thousand a year along with ss and what ever else you had. I dont know about you but 40 to 50 grand wont cut in today. In todays market you would have to be taking money out of your origional millon to survive. Just out of curiosity what are you going to leave with?

 

[mikey60]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

If this isn't the anger phase I don't know what is.

Step away from the board and go take a deep breath. Come back when you've calmed down so we can talk about how you don't make as much as we do and how bad you contract is.

I cant believe it your wrong again... I'm on the 76 and as far as contracts go ours sucks and your blows.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Wow, you guys calling the group you tried to screw Greedy? Oh my sides! Ignoring binding arbitration, forming a new union, not living up to your agreements? The west is greedy because they have stood up to the thugs that can't live up to their agreements?

Perhaps your anger or whatever should be directed at the Teacher and NOT the Students? I get that you're upset and in some ways I agree.

Like it or not, the folks on the East learned at the Master's feet when it comes to breaking agreements, lack of honor & Integrity. EVERY workgroup studied at the Master's Feet. Threats, Lies, Intimidation were all well taught by the Master while Doug and Scott were pounding beers deciding whether to close the Columbus hub.

Who could I be referring to? Why none other then the Count of Crystal City the Pope of PIT, The author of LOA's long and short, none other then Jerry "The Glasshole" Glass. The East Pilots have applied Mr Glass's blatant lack of honor and integrity and made it their own. Sorry but you really can't blame the pilots as they have been well taught by Mr Glass.

The mere fact that Jerry Glass was involved in drafting LOA93 makes me think the pilots will not prevail. Sadly the West is paying for the sins of Jerry Glass. If push comes to shove IMO the east unions will shut US down for good if provoked.

 

[mikey60]

Wow, you guys calling the group you tried to screw Greedy? Oh my sides! Ignoring binding arbitration, forming a new union, not living up to your agreements? The west is greedy because they have stood up to the thugs that can't live up to their agreements?

Thanks for the laugh, how is life in Bizzaro-land?

Words from another peon, go home and dream about the airplanes you used to load.

 

[Injunction junction]

So one of you westies finally are telling the truth. The west is not reminding the east that they (some that is ) are making less than the west and in their opinion have a better contract than the east. The truth is you GREEDY pricks are only worried about you wallet and if the kids are going to be able to go to private school and the "wife " will be driving to the supermarket in a Acura or a Honda. Personally I hope your property values fall another 30%, the "wife" dumps your a$$ for some border crosser and your kids end up in reform school. Oh yea have a nice evening.

I simply can not believe that you have the nerve to type that. Greedy are you serious??? Greedy is east and its doh mantra. You had a losing company with a failed business plan and 40% of your pilots on furlough. We come to you with a compromise and you spat in our faces. We did your way with the arbitration panel that YOU picked and then you dishonor yourself your group and the profession by not honoring your agreement!?! Naw man its you whose greedy thinking you and fk me over just because of the PURCHASE of AAA that kept you employed. No sir that aint gonna happen. Yeah you stole close to 5yrs with bs stalling and the hack lawyer that you just fired but I will get all that back here soon and the expense of those on the east that you sold out with your failed doh quest.

The youngest goes to a top public school, plays competitive club soccer and the wife drives a 2010 escalade I'm in the the v6 Honda accord plus have the weekend summer fun toy Shelby Mustang! Been married 20yrs so she aint going nowhere. Love that raciest comment though as it sure paints the pretty picture of most of you southern good'ol boys. Probably a charter member of the white knights too huh? Yeah they will drape you casket in a couple years in the kkk cloth as they lower you back to that hole you crawled out of. You have an good night too 😉

Injunction

 

[HPearlyretiree]

Words from another peon, go home and dream about the airplanes you used to load.

Sorry Clyde, I was management. Degree, experience, all that stuff.


Poor entitlement Eastie....

You have been shooting your toes off and you try to blame someone else. Be thankful that AWA bought the rusting hulk that employed you, otherwise you'd be selling 2x4's at Lowes.

 

[traderjake]

If push comes to shove IMO the east unions will shut US down for good if provoked.

Not going to happen.

The East pilots can never go on strike because they know 1800 West pilots would cross their picket line in a heartbeat.

The international passengers could be rerouted on the Star Alliance until the West gets qualified on the 330.

Parker could cut some on the less profitable flying and have a smaller, more desirable airline to merge.

 

[Res Judicata]

If push comes to shove IMO the east unions will shut US down for good if provoked.

Rrrrrrriiiiiiigggggggghhhhhhhttttt.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Not going to happen.

The East pilots can never go on strike because they know 1800 West pilots would cross their picket line in a heartbeat.

The international passengers could be rerouted on the Star Alliance until the West gets qualified on the 330.

Parker could shed some on the less profitable flying and have a smaller, more desirable airline to merge.

Not talking just pilots. EVERYONE got bludgeoned by Jerry Glass. IMO, anyone represented by IAM walks, Same for USAPA east side. CWA too. AFA creates Chaos. US Airways is in a dangerous place right now and one wrong move and the house of cards come tumbling down.

It does say alot about your honor and integrity that you'd even consider crossing a picket line. I've never worked union a day in my nor do I desire to change that. I stopped and turned around from my favorite Supermarket while UFCW local was trying to organize the chain. Some things in life you just don't do.

 

[Claxon]

Not going to happen.

The East pilots can never go on strike because they know 1800 West pilots would cross their picket line in a heartbeat.

The international passengers could be rerouted on the Star Alliance until the West gets qualified on the 330.

Parker could cut some on the less profitable flying and have a smaller, more desirable airline to merge.

You know the western well. This is their chosen lot in life. Lower the industry bar their forte. Lower it to a new level their specialty. Franke's henchmen hired the castoffs for a reason. His reason. The rest of the industry is waiting for them to live up to their potential and cross another picket line. It is what they do best.

 

[mikey60]

I simply can not believe that you have the nerve to type that. Greedy are you serious??? Greedy is east and its doh mantra. You had a losing company with a failed business plan and 40% of your pilots on furlough. We come to you with a compromise and you spat in our faces. We did your way with the arbitration panel that YOU picked and then you dishonor yourself your group and the profession by not honoring your agreement!?! Naw man its you whose greedy thinking you and fk me over just because of the PURCHASE of AAA that kept you employed. No sir that aint gonna happen. Yeah you stole close to 5yrs with bs stalling and the hack lawyer that you just fired but I will get all that back here soon and the expense of those on the east that you sold out with your failed doh quest.

The youngest goes to a top public school, plays competitive club soccer and the wife drives a 2010 escalade I'm in the the v6 Honda accord plus have the weekend summer fun toy Shelby Mustang! Been married 20yrs so she aint going nowhere. Love that raciest comment though as it sure paints the pretty picture of most of you southern good'ol boys. Probably a charter member of the white knights too huh? Yeah they will drape you casket in a couple years in the kkk cloth as they lower you back to that hole you crawled out of. You have an good night too 😉

Injunction

Well, pick your a$$ up off the floor. You and the your GREEDY f/o's club have beat the who bought who and honor crap into the ground. Your only concern is getting into the left seat asap. Your group was so po'ed when the age limit went to 65 because it slowed your quest for the left seat by 5 years.
As for your personal life I could not be less concerned if your paragraph about the family was to show what a good person your are, it failed. You pal are just another awe puke trying to get something for nothing. You have any kind of night you want , I dont really care.

 

[traderjake]

Some things in life you just don't do.

Making decisions based on peer pressure is one of them.

Reneging on a mutually agreed upon arbitration is another.