US Pilots Labor Discussion

[good st nic]

We are half way through the:


5 Stages of NIC:

1. Denial and isolation
2. Anger
3. Bargaining
4. Depression
5. Acceptance

The LOA 93 decision will start the 4th stage.

 

[nic4us]

Those faces? Theurer who is running away from the sinking ship and moved to PHX

Or Bradford who seconded the resolution to bring in the teamsters? He must be so proud of his union that after less then 4 years he is ready to kill it.

Can'tt ell who the other goober is.

But you keep smiling? Silly fool.

Hold the phone...Bradford wants to go IBT??

Theur lives in PHX?? I thought all these eastholes wanted nothing to do with PHX, much less live in the base whose jobs they are trying to steal.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Depends on what strategy the company wished to persue.

I would imagine the first thing the company would do is file in court to have the arbitrator's award nullified as it would fall far outside the industry standard contractual language found when a revision of pay or snapback was entitled. The company will claim that the only interpretation they could have had pre-merger was that 12-31-09 was an amendable date.

If that fails, they would go to remedy, while downsizing the east far below TA fleet mins, (you do know there are dates in the TA right?) and apply severe pressure for a compromise, prior to paying dime one.

Dream on. The company WROTE that language in LOA 93, so it will be hard for them to wiggle out of it.

If Kasher rules in favor of the east pilots, we will all again review the lesson that wash hashed out on this forum for at least a year:

The difference between a federally-mandated arbitration under RLA law, and a private union sponsored arbitration.

Remedy? Kasher gave the company the remedy during the hearings: "If you owe it, you will pay it."

Questions?

 

[nic4us]

Dream on. The company WROTE that language in LOA 93, so it will be hard for them to wiggle out of it.

If Kasher rules in favor of the east pilots, we will all again review the lesson that wash hashed out on this forum for at least a year:

The difference between a federally-mandated arbitration under RLA law, and a private union sponsored arbitration.

Remedy? Kasher gave the company the remedy during the hearings: "If you owe it, you will pay it."

Questions?

If the company wrote the language, then would it not make sense that the company would be the sole sorce as to what that language means?

We all know the difference between a federally-mandated arbitration under the RLA, and a private union sponsored arbitration. We also know the similarity......they are both final and binding. Ask any federal judge.

The Nic is here to stay, unless usapa can negotiate a non-Nic, that does not "work the disadvantages plaintiffs fear." Don't take my word, just ask the 9th circuit. The West is going to quote them regularly for Silver.

 

[traderjake]

Questions?

If we lose how much longer are you willing to live with LOA 93 wages while you try to rewrite the seniority list?

 

[Rookie Jr]

hang around a while, you will learn something. 😀

So might you.

 

[Iclubbabyseals]

Good luck with your "medical" issue Theuer you SCAB P.O.S.

Typical pathetic juvenile response. You have no idea what ails Scott.

At least I have a good reason to say so, as opposed to you.

That said. I am glad he is gone.

 

[luvn737s]

If the east pilots win with Kasher, those pay rates would have to be the new starting point for negotiations.

Keep clickin' those heels Dorothy!!

 

[Iclubbabyseals]

The east however, has a list arranged by prior mergers, and is far from DOH.

Really. Please list all such cases. Please include when, why and where.

If you can.

 

[Iclubbabyseals]

Wait a minute, I thought USAPA was your answer to everything. What happened?

BTW, Bourne isn't interested in taking you on. Teamsters is just a dream for you.

You completely misunderstand, as usual, the ties involved. Even cretins can do better than your fevered and hair on fire response. Love the push-back from those most afraid.
You have no idea what the teamsters want, do you?

 

[Move2CLT]

You completely misunderstand, as usual, the ties involved. Even cretins can do better than your fevered and hair on fire response. Love the push-back from those most afraid.
You have no idea what the teamsters want, do you?

They don't want the east, that I know.

 

[Move2CLT]

We are half way through the:


5 Stages of NIC:

1. Denial and isolation
2. Anger
3. Bargaining
4. Depression
5. Acceptance

The LOA 93 decision will start the 4th stage.

It doesn't get any more textbook than with these easties.

 

[Harry Callahan]

They don't want the east, that I know.

Like some one else said who cares.

 

[Iclubbabyseals]

If we lose how much longer are you willing to live with LOA 93 wages while you try to rewrite the seniority list?

Who is rewriting anything?

The Nicholau was only for a specific set of circumstances. They are all changed.

You want to go back there, fine. You will never, and I mean never, see a merged contract then. and, I will be happy to live under LOA 93 wages.

 

[Move2CLT]

I don't know, but it seems the east has been DOH the entire time. I don't know what the west scabs are working under but, I would assume they along with the rest of the west contingent are DOH also.

I could be wrong. 🙄

You sure have. And you've been on LOA 93 for a long time too.

And the only way you guys are moving off of LOA 93 is via the Nic.