US Pilots Labor Discussion

[nevergiveup]

Why?

The Nicolau is the accepted seniority list by the company. The T/A says we have to use the Nicolau list. If there is a merger usapa is going to have to had over a single list not 2 lists. It may not be used for bidding purposes until we have a joint contract but Nicolau is the combined list.

Read section IV-a per the transition agreement. We will never get the joint contract. No 3rd party provision.

 

[Move2CLT]

Read section IV-a per the transition agreement. We will never get the joint contract. No 3rd party provision.

Do you even know what you just said?

 

[Move2CLT]

Any update on a trial date for NAUGHLER?

Yes.

There will be no trial.

They lost.

 

[traderjake]

..... you guys just make me laugh to much, just looking back over the last several weeks you can see the increase in desperation from you kids.

Ignorance is bliss.

 

[Move2CLT]

Ignorance is bliss.

And they've been living blissfully for a long time.

So much so that they now like LOA 93.

 

[traderjake]

Hey idiot boy...I have my left seat, I have my attrition and I have my DOH.

Don't spend them all in one place.

 

[nevergiveup]

Do you even know what you just said?

Is there a third party provision that I am not aware of?

 

[Ames]

You have me at a distinct disadvantage with that, as I'm not nearly as fluent in Frothy Babble as yourself.

If anyone is fluent in frothy babble it's you.

 

[luvthe9]

Ignorance is bliss.

Hey welcome, "Traitor" how you and the Chipster doing today?

 

[Move2CLT]

If anyone is fluent in frothy babble it's you.

Guess I'm not the only one that thinks so.

Can't wait for his long-winded retort.

 

[Move2CLT]

Hey welcome, "Traitor" how you and the Chipster doing today?

Much better than your application of the English language.

Hey luv, how are you guys doing with overturning the Appeals Board election?

I hear your boys are thinking twice about it now with the threat of a lawsuit hanging over your heads.

 

[EastUS1]

Guess I'm not the only one that thinks so.

Can't wait for his long-winded retort.

OK, would Dude!..That's harsh! work better for you? 😉

 

[Move2CLT]

OK, would Dude!..That's harsh! work better for you? 😉

Did you almost pass out writing such a short post?

 

[BoeingBoy]

Read section IV-a per the transition agreement. We will never get the joint contract. No 3rd party provision.

What are you babbling on about? The TA is for the US/HP merger - why should there be another carrier mentioned in it? If there's another merger, there'll be a new transition agreement and it will include US and the new merger partner - or do you think the TA in place now should cover every eventuality for the next 20, 50, 100 years - every possible acquisition, every possible acquirer, every possible fragmentation, etc.?

A new merger will use the US and the merger partner's lists - just as the US/HP merger used the US and HP lists. Just because the Nic hasn't been implemented yet due to not having a combined US/HP contract doesn't mean it's not the only valid US combined list.

Jim

 

[Ames]

PS: I'm still eagerly awaiting, purely for selfish purposes of advancing more towards any possible, personal "enlightenment", some response to the posted request for "a ready and comprehensive explanation of the MORAL, not "legal" basis for placing that new hire ahead of anyone who has the 16+ years of service." I'm starving for the "true knowledge", known only to nic fans, of what "logic or morality" indeed are.....so please make your best effort at instruction...and, well....feel perfectly free to use as many small words as you need......

Start with this: Sixteen years of service is not the same as 16 years on a seniority list. In 2005 there were pilots on furlough, not working, not on property, whose names were on your seniority list for 16 years who actually worked, ie. gave years of service around 6 years. So, you are actually comparing someone with six years of service with a "new hire" who was working, on the property, serving the company; someone with a future - with someone out of a job with NO HOPE of returning to said company on the brink of liquidation.

It is fair, moral and correct to put that actively working pilot of your furloughed pilot, even though your guy gave six years of service over 16 years.