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Usapa Watch: A New Majority

A new majority

Early this morning, President Hummel awoke to the news that another union negotiated an industry leading deal with Doug Parker. Not only did Hummel not have any input into the deal, but it appears that he will have little to no input to the final product slated to be negotiated in the very near future. USAPA has been completely and totally marginalized and there isn’t much the US Airways pilots can do about their new predicament.


A few years back a New York lawyer sold Steve Bradford on the concept that the tyranny of the majority could impose its will on the minority to get its way. At the time the east pilots outnumbered the west pilots almost 2-1. For the last four years, Bradford’s independent union experiment has spent millions of dollars of our money trying to convince numerous judges and juries that the majority can do as it pleases with little regard to minority rights. So far the west pilots have been successful in their efforts to thwart USAPA’s agenda.


The news this morning must have been a jolt to the USAPA faithful. The stark reality is as follows:


APA represents 10,734 pilots


USAPA represents 5,127


According to the Bradford theory on majority rule, the APA has every right to dictate the terms of the merger to the US Airways pilots. Following USAPA’s logic, the agreements brought to the new entity can be ignored by the APA as they were negotiated by former bargaining agents.


The good news for us is that the west pilots are fighting to ensure that the new combined east/west minority retains our lawful rights and preserves our current collective bargaining agreements.


For that we should all be thankful
 
Can you speak in english?
Should a furlough HP pilot hired after an AA or US pilot be recall before a senior AA or US furlough pilot
Should a HP pilot hired after an AA or US pilot become a captain/upgrade before an AA or US pilot
Should a HP pilot hired after an AA or US pilot bid before a AA or US pilot
 
So you think 3 airlines are merging? What is the only list accepted in writing at LCC at this time? Are we not in Silver's court to see if you can change the accepted list?


Fodase, I miss your gerbil posts. Can't you share?

With the FAs and pilots, USAir is operating two different contracts and is in negotiations for joint contracts of said groups (in case you missed it, those negotiations have probably been superseded by current events).

The merger (if it happens as it appears today) will be joining three different contract groups for the FAs and three different contract groups for the pilots. Who knows what negotiations will bring about...

Even many of the West FAs (who have agreed to DOH, but don't yet have a ratified seniority list) may be interested in the future negotiations... or did you think McCaskill-Bond is only applicable to pilots. :lol: (Think about it.. despite the fact that the company and USAir FAs have in principle agreed to a DOH list, it is not ratified, and the West FAs would surely do better in a McCaskill-Bond scenario with three groups. ...No doubt that is why the AFA declared today that "A contract for Flight Attendants at US Airways must be completed prior to any new merger deal." Read that as "the FA's DOH seniority has to be locked in a ratified contract first!" (To protect them from erosions of a McCaskill-Bond arbitration... Good luck with that.)

Yes.... I know, you wish the NIC was locked in already... And the East wishes DOH was locked in already... but the reality is that there are three pilot contract groups.... count them. B)
 
Should a furlough HP pilot hired after an AA or US pilot be recall before a senior AA or US furlough pilot
Should a HP pilot hired after an AA or US pilot become a captain/upgrade before an AA or US pilot
Should a HP pilot hired after an AA or US pilot bid before a AA or US pilot
What's the relative seniority of each pilot? There's your answer.
 
Should a furlough HP pilot hired after an AA or US pilot be recall before a senior AA or US furlough pilot
Should a HP pilot hired after an AA or US pilot become a captain/upgrade before an AA or US pilot
Should a HP pilot hired after an AA or US pilot bid before a AA or US pilot
This is very simple. DOH. That way the 1800 AA/TWA furloughees will be returning with their hire dates and displacing hundreds of jr. East pilots. As they should. just because They're hopelessly furloughed, with no real expectation to be recalled....in the warm embrace of Bankruptcy to boot, in no way should have any bearing on their combined seniority. Their DOH will....as USAPA has always demanded....be honored...

as Enshrined in the USAPA C&BL's.

No problemo...right? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Can you please explain your logic behind your findings

Its just my guess but you are welcome to point out how West FAs are better off with being stapled to the East under DOH (the current, unratified, unimplimented "company accepted" list) and after being stapled under the East, then merging McCaskill-Bond with the AA APFA list (McCaskill-Bond will apply since the AA and LCC FAs are in different unions, no?).

In other words, the West is better off to do McCaskill-Bond arbitration as three "equal" groups, rather than be stuck under the bus by DOH with the East first.... It seems to me that arbitration always works out better for work groups that think DOH is harmful to them... The West would be better off doing arbitrations.... and the East FAs they would be better off if DOH was already ratified.. What say you?
 
Fodase, I miss your gerbil posts. Can't you share?

Yes.... I know, you wish the NIC was locked in already... And the East wishes DOH was locked in already... but the reality is that there are three pilot contract groups.... count them. B)
Sorry to pee in your punch bowl but the fact is the Nic is in fact locked in. It has been for years. Seham lied to you. Shocker, I know. All the steps are completed minus the joint contract. Guess what Parker did with the APA today with zero input from your worthless scab union? He just Got 90% of the way to that very joint contract. Judge Silver will be explaining this to you fairly soon.

You're getting a 40% raise if this pans out. Which considering the unemployment check you should have received 7 years ago, I'd say you're damn lucky.
 
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