US Pilots Labor Discussion

[traderjake]

How many east pilots are flying the 330 that did not come from Piedmont? How many WB did US Air have before that merger?

Those USAir pilots had no expectation to fly a Peidmont 767 or other WB.

Using USAPA's warped logic they should have been fenced off those airplanes forever.

 

[767one]

Thanks for that. It was just a curiosity thing. To me the 330 is a pretty machine to appreciate when it taxis by, but I've had zero thoughts in my head of ever flying it. Being a captain on one I suppose may come to a few eventually, but not to most of us.

I could fly the bus now but I would have to bid twice and would more than likley screw that up! Also as long as there is a Boeing I will fly that before going on the Eurotrash.

Regards,


Bob

 

[A320 Driver]

I could fly the bus now but I would have to bid twice and would more than likley screw that up! Also as long as there is a Boeing I will fly that before going on the Eurotrash.

Regards,


Bob

I agree with you Bob. Stay RIGHT THERE on the Boeing.


Thanks,

Driver 😛

 

[lynyrdskynyrd]

The 319, 320, and 321 are, uh, um...ah comfortable. Comfortable, yeah that's it. 🙂 The Boeings are definitely more to my liking as flying machines. However as hard as we work domestically, I've learned to appreciate the bus for it's creature comforts, at least.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Does anyone know how much MARTY charges for a 6.5 Deposition?

 

[cleardirect]

Does anyone know how much MARTY charges for a 6.5 Deposition?

Probably about the same amount as Seham.

 

[cactusboy53]

Here's my guess:

The Nic Will Be Shoved Down Your Throat So Far You Can Read It On Your Back Side

I actually disagree with that. I think the stalemate will continue until the west pilots decide to do the hard work of regaining control of pilot labor and remove USAPA.

Heck, even Kenny Rogers' Coward of the County, Tommy eventually stopped and locked the door! 😛

Luvn;

That was truly a superior guess. Spot on. The regaining of control is in full swing: IF YOU BELIEVE THAT CLEARY IS HARMING THIS PILOT GROUP AND YOU WANT TO BE IN CONTROL OF THE UNION....THE TIME TO ACT IS NOW. VISIT US AT: www.reformusapa.com

Even if you don't believe that the Nicolau will be the final seniority list, the other two petitions are still an important move in the right direction. Don't sit back and wait for the the junior FO's to fix everything and get you a new contract! It's been OVER THREE YEARS. The only one's making bank is Cleary's group and the company.

 

[nycbusdriver]

I could fly the bus now but I would have to bid twice and would more than likley screw that up! Also as long as there is a Boeing I will fly that before going on the Eurotrash.

Regards,


Bob

Yes. Really great idea, Bob. Couldn't agree more!

 

[East Hole]

You mean like all the name calling and finger pointing the east has done over the years toward ALPA? Got it.

ALPA shill! ALPA sux! ALPA gave my pension away! ALPA screwed us with the Nic. ALPA, ALPA, ALPA... Yup. Lots of name calling and finger pointing. That explains the behavior. Thanks for your honesty. Now go have a talk with your buddy Nos. :blink:

I have no buddies in this industry dude. I stay away from pilots and airplanes, except when at work. I do make casual observations about people and their pathetic behavior. However I paid union dues to ALPA 4 about 20 years and saw no benefit to being a member. Having an actual beef with the old union and name calling by individuals in every post in my mind is not the same thing. U would never be a buddy because u r an aviation DORK, but guys like u r a dime a dozen.....U will look back someday at your comments when u grow up and be shocked how arrogant some of your post were. How is that I think I fit in on this mindless board.

 

[mrbreeze]

Yeah. I saw it. USCABA lost about 9 months ago.

C'mon......can we keep it down in the dumbass section over there?

 

[mrbreeze]

"USAPA Paralegal Cathy McHale contacted Arbitrator Kasher in order to ascertain his availability to preside over potential hearings in the fall and winter of 2011 and 2012. During their conversation, Mr. Kasher volunteered to her that he was "back in business." He reported that he was recovering from major surgery and, in case anyone asked, he knew that he owed USAPA a couple of decisions. He stated that it was his plan to complete that work in the next couple of months. As you are aware, Arbitrator Kasher currently has two issues before him: MEC 06-08-04 Hotel Selection Criteria and BPR 09-06-02 Revisions to Hourly Pay Rates (LOA 93)."

THX!

 

[767jetz]

I do make casual observations about people and their pathetic behavior.

So do I.

Having an actual beef with the old union and name calling by individuals in every post in my mind is not the same thing.

Now go have a talk with your buddy Nos. :blink:

 

[kubotapilot]

There are definitely too many pilot DORKS on this forum. They need to get over their feeble egos and get a life outside of this mediocre profession. Your words are prophetic.

Guys (and gals), at the end of your trip, GO HOME, go to where your real life is, not in the crew room or in this virtual crew room!

I have no buddies in this industry dude. I stay away from pilots and airplanes, except when at work. I do make casual observations about people and their pathetic behavior. However I paid union dues to ALPA 4 about 20 years and saw no benefit to being a member. Having an actual beef with the old union and name calling by individuals in every post in my mind is not the same thing. U would never be a buddy because u r an aviation DORK, but guys like u r a dime a dozen.....U will look back someday at your comments when u grow up and be shocked how arrogant some of your post were. How is that I think I fit in on this mindless board.

 

[luvn737s]

Luvn;

That was truly a superior guess. Spot on. The regaining of control is in full swing: IF YOU BELIEVE THAT CLEARY IS HARMING THIS PILOT GROUP AND YOU WANT TO BE IN CONTROL OF THE UNION....THE TIME TO ACT IS NOW. VISIT US AT: www.reformusapa.com

Even if you don't believe that the Nicolau will be the final seniority list, the other two petitions are still an important move in the right direction. Don't sit back and wait for the the junior FO's to fix everything and get you a new contract! It's been OVER THREE YEARS. The only one's making bank is Cleary's group and the company.

Sorry, USAPA cannot be reformed, only replaced. There is nothing to be gained by perpetuating USAPA's legacy.

I think I am more disappointed in the Reform USAPA movement than in USAPA itself. They think that small incremental changes in an fundementally flawed union is sufficient to give it legitimacy and relevance.

ALPA lost to USAPA due to hubris and laziness and that very same laziness is perpetuated in those too timid to take on replacing every rivet of USAPA. Those who are disillusioned by the way USAPA has turned out will not throw their full support behind a whitewashed version of the same union that betrayed their trust. They will only support a totally new bipartisan union that can reclaim legitimacy at the negotiating table and who can build the unity from which flows all the benefits one expects from a union.

If you want to build a union with a real physical presence in every crew base, you'll get plenty of support. If you want to play Tom Sawyer and hand your fellow pilots a whitewash brush, no thanks.

 

[A320 Driver]

Sorry, USAPA cannot be reformed, only replaced. There is nothing to be gained by perpetuating USAPA's legacy.

I think I am more disappointed in the Reform USAPA movement than in USAPA itself. They think that small incremental changes in an fundementally flawed union is sufficient to give it legitimacy and relevance.

ALPA lost to USAPA due to hubris and laziness and that very same laziness is perpetuated in those too timid to take on replacing every rivet of USAPA. Those who are disillusioned by the way USAPA has turned out will not throw their full support behind a whitewashed version of the same union that betrayed their trust. They will only support a totally new bipartisan union that can reclaim legitimacy at the negotiating table and who can build the unity from which flows all the benefits one expects from a union.

If you want to build a union with a real physical presence in every crew base, you'll get plenty of support. If you want to play Tom Sawyer and hand your fellow pilots a whitewash brush, no thanks.

So we should go running back to ALPA???

USAPA, ALPA, IBT whatever. You won't fix anything until you change peoples minds...including YOURS.

Driver B)