US Pilots Labor Discussion

[cleardirect]

Driver,

There is a reason he calls himself 'Traitor'. People like him and CM plus a few others that don't understand the concept of mutual support consistently show their efforts to destroy everyone around them. You are correct, at least they are predictable. They will never come out from their cloak of secrecy behind the web boards as they would eventually be fragged as they deserve.

Too bad we couldn't give them what they want and put them on the West list. At least then they would feel wanted and we would be free of their destructive tactics.

V

So in your world anyone that disagrees with you or expresses an opposing view is out to destroy you. Really drama queen. Are your views and opinions so weak that they can not stand up to a little examination? Think Soviet, China, middle east or South American Banana Republic dictators. Control the message and "frag" anyone who does not "mutually support" the fearless leader, the great and powerful OZ. Is King Kleary feeling the pressure to deliver something? The little people starting to see the emperor has no cloths?

In your world anyone with an opposing view must be "fragged" or destroyed. Double standard?

"Mutual support" or blind following however you want to describe it. Agree with you or get "fragged" Nice unity you got going on over there.

And yes we will put all of them on our list, just like we are trying to put all US Airways pilots on the same list. It is you east pilots that oppose it.

 

[snapthis]

If that were true you would have called 911 (per ucrapa advice) and this would be in the forefront of ucrapa news. On the other hand, one of our west fo's did have an east captain fired last week for doing the very same thing. She had witnesses and a solid case. Got it straight from her - no hearsay.

Funny how ucrapa doesn't put this in the forefront. Let's see if they get him his job back.

I doubt it. If they had a real union, it might be possible. Too bad for him, the company does not listen to the Usapian noise machine. They have no war chest or clout. Just a propaganda machine which spits out and distributes their BS.

 

[snapthis]

I'm not going to have you remove your Usapa badge backer as Snap suggests if you jumpseat.
I have never kicked an East pilot off the jumpseat for a sticker or badge backer.You said that you are not interested in using the jumpseat as a political tool. In the same post, you say if you have the sticker you are off! I'm confused.

Would you please make a list of approved stickers since they are not listed on the jumpseat briefing card?

He can wear it but I will be sure to brief him using a Leonidas brochure.

 

[Metroyet]

The West pilots don't have a single job I'd be interested in. On the other hand, there are quite a few over here THEY would be interested in. Maybe even YOURS.

Wouldn't that be a HOOT!!!

Driver B)

Total B.S. Its really insulting to ones intelligence when you guys say such stupid stuff. Just ask any of your 1879 FURLOUGHEES if they were interested in stealing the jobs of America west pilots! I promise you, 99% were interested in those West jobs.

If another 9-11 style furlough happens, and DOH is the list nearly ALL America West pilots get replaced by those that were UNEMPLOYED at the time of the merger. That is precisely why DOH is way outside the "wide range of reasonableness"
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That and that whole "final and binding" thing.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

So in your world anyone that disagrees with you or expresses an opposing view is out to destroy you. Really drama queen. Are your views and opinions so weak that they can not stand up to a little examination? Think Soviet, China, middle east or South American Banana Republic dictators. Control the message and "frag" anyone who does not "mutually support" the fearless leader, the great and powerful OZ. Is King Kleary feeling the pressure to deliver something? The little people starting to see the emperor has no cloths?

In your world anyone with an opposing view must be "fragged" or destroyed. Double standard?

"Mutual support" or blind following however you want to describe it. Agree with you or get "fragged" Nice unity you got going on over there.

And yes we will put all of them on our list, just like we are trying to put all US Airways pilots on the same list. It is you east pilots that oppose it.

And the ones you can't put on that list you call "SCABS" BAD CHILDREN, STEAL their personal data to send them BS literature, and do who knows what kinda personal damage, yea I see what disagreeing with the "ARMY" does, They call it an ARMY for a reason, And it aint offering salvation! MM!

 

[Metroyet]

Had a westi start screaming at me in the PHL terminal when he saw my yellow lanyard. This was in front of pax. If I ever see him in the front end, I'll get off. I'll take my family off. I'll suggest to Pax that they get off. This guy should not be in cockpit. And to think we would ever fly together!

Gee, he made fun of your stupid, coward yellow lanyard? Imagine that!

Perhaps he was just a wee bit frustrated that you're openly advertising an illegal work action...one that might jeopardize his livelihood? Maybe he's frustrated because his co workers are so effing stupid they think a coward yellow lanyard is going to force the company to accept an ILLEGAL proposal from a fake, dfr convicted union.

Think of that lanyard as a noose you invented and put around your own neck. That's the way the company views it. You may as well too.

 

[prechilill]

Just to bad you and your family were not on board.

Your poor ability to spell notwithstanding, you are a laugh a minute!!

 

[traderjake]

People like him and CM plus a few others that don't understand the concept of mutual support consistently show their efforts to destroy everyone around them. You are correct, at least they are predictable. They will never come out from their cloak of secrecy behind the web boards as they would eventually be fragged as they deserve.
V

So says the guy who admires NAZI soldiers because they supported each other.

It doesn't matter what they were actually doing.

You're sick, get help.

 

[crazystnic]

Total B.S. Its really insulting to ones intelligence when you guys say such stupid stuff. Just ask any of your 1879 FURLOUGHEES if they were interested in stealing the jobs of America west pilots! I promise you, 99% were interested in those West jobs.

If another 9-11 style furlough happens, and DOH is the list nearly ALL America West pilots get replaced by those that were UNEMPLOYED at the time of the merger. That is precisely why DOH is way outside the "wide range of reasonableness"
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That and that whole "final and binding" thing.

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You guys hide behind that massive furlough thing and I don't buy it... If this place gets any smaller it goes away... So stop hiding behind .. the if there is another furlough is a reason not to do DOH with C+R's...

and you got it wrong.. I don't want any of your seats.. Just fence it off and we keep our upgrades and you keep yours...

 

[Ames]

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You guys hide behind that massive furlough thing and I don't buy it... If this place gets any smaller it goes away... So stop hiding behind .. the if there is another furlough is a reason not to do DOH with C+R's...

and you got it wrong.. I don't want any of your seats.. Just fence it off and we keep our upgrades and you keep yours...

The truth of the matter is, had we not "merged" US Airways would have liquidated and AWA would have grown into the markets abandoned by your "once great airline". While you would have stood in your rightful place on the unemployment line ALL of the upgrades from our growing company would have gone to AWA pilots.

The difference between our two groups is that, despite what I said above, we did "merge" and the AWA pilots are willing to share all subsequent growth while east pilots want to hoard it all for themselves. You have gotten all of the new 757's, 330's and 190's. What have we gotten?

You are hiring now. We have guys on furlough. WTFO?

 

[Metroyet]

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You guys hide behind that massive furlough thing and I don't buy it... If this place gets any smaller it goes away... So stop hiding behind .. the if there is another furlough is a reason not to do DOH with C+R's...

and you got it wrong.. I don't want any of your seats.. Just fence it off and we keep our upgrades and you keep yours...

Right. How convenient. "just ignore that little thing when we had more pilots on furlough than america west had TOTAL pilots" not hiding behind anything there scabby. Unless you think facts are something to hide from...but then again that wouldn't really surprise me given your groups total lack of integrity and twisted version of reality.

You are not shoving your career cancer Westward. Ever. If it takes a bare knuckle brawl to the last man standing, you'll never get DOH or a contract. Whatever it takes to hold USCABAs head under water will be done with gleeful earnest.

It's been working like a charm for nearly 3.5years now with no end in sight. Have a nice day.

 

[flybynite]

Have you not received AB321's? Or did I imagine that?

 

[Hate2fly]

The truth of the matter is, had we not "merged" US Airways would have liquidated and AWA would have grown into the markets abandoned by your "once great airline". While you would have stood in your rightful place on the unemployment line ALL of the upgrades from our growing company would have gone to AWA pilots.

The difference between our two groups is that, despite what I said above, we did "merge" and the AWA pilots are willing to share all subsequent growth while east pilots want to hoard it all for themselves. You have gotten all of the new 757's, 330's and 190's. What have we gotten?

You are hiring now. We have guys on furlough. WTFO?

Ames,

When the old man put 5 week new hires ahead of 17 year never furloughed guys you had to know it was going to be a disaster! The average age in the east is 59 years old. Most of us have experienced the ups and downs of this industry. Most pilots in this industry would love to merge with the oldest pilot group in this country. Attrition in the east has arrived. There is nothing to stop it. The east is hiring 22 pilots a month. We are so short staffed in the east.......this summer is becoming a challenge. Some day the west pilots will look back and see that you guys made some tactical errors. Every east new hire will always vote with the east pilots for separate ops. They will see the attrition and the massive move up the list on a monthly basis. They will upgrade to Captain with separate operations very quickly. When Kasher comes in it is game over. Personally, I hope Lakefield works another deal that splits this abortion of a merger up. This place will never be right! Nicolau did not do any of us any favors.

Hate

 

[flyinawa]

Just to bad you and your family were not on board.

An East pilot wishing death on a West pilot AND his family. This speaks volumes about your character, Mikey. I'll re-post this next time any East pilot accuses a West pilot of a "low blow" comment. Maybe you need to put yourself in a time-out. Also, nice job by your East peers of sanctioning such comments by not making any mention of it. Congratulations on reaching a new low.

 

[traderjake]

Most pilots in this industry would love to merge with the oldest pilot group in this country. Hate

Based on past merger attempts United and Delta pilots don't seem to agree with you.