US Pilots Labor Discussion

[signals]

Looks like we have a father-daughter team at work here.

Who? Ames and you, or you and wings 😛

 

[traderjake]

Making such wild eyed accusations because you haven't received a pay raise at the expense of those junior to you..
priceless. 😛

Making our Reserve F/Os senior to your Captains because we out number you....

clueless

 

[nic4us]

Making such wild eyed accusations because you haven't received a pay raise at the expense of those junior to you..

priceless. 😛

Priceless????

Quite the contrary.....we can definitely put a price on the damages caused by the scabs and their DFR job theft program.


PS...."those junior" to me will remain junior to me, denying them the chance to scab my job is not their "expense", so I see no "wild eyed accusations" at all. Only a scab supporter upset his scab friends and their scab union are failures.

 

[fifidriver]

No, it's obvious there are two seperate lists. If we do ever try to merge with another carrier, three lists are as easy to merge as two. Of course, I'm thinking you're the one who needs to hope there are three lists to combine, if US and American merge.

Spike

Hi Spike...
Based on your join date, your number of previous posts, my Friday, and the number of my previous drinks, I am fascinated by your view-point. Is this really what you foresee, in the event of a US/AA merger? Is this also the view-piont of your peer group? Are you familiar with the term "hybrid DFR" and the financial ramifications to an "employer"?

Sincerely...

 

[Move2CLT]

If the Nic was the accepted seniority list, there would be East pilots on furlough. Since there are West pilots currently furloughed, there must still be two seperate lists.

Spike

That's very good spike. Teach us some more.

 

[spike99]

Hi Spike...
Based on your join date, your number of previous posts, my Friday, and the number of my previous drinks, I am fascinated by your view-point. Is this really what you foresee, in the event of a US/AA merger? Is this also the view-piont of your peer group? Are you familiar with the term "hybrid DFR" and the financial ramifications to an "employer"?

Sincerely...

I can only speak for myself, not my peer group. I understand "hybrid DFR" and "DFR", the people who push a merger through will also understand. One, they won't care and will do whatever it takes to get it through, or they will structure the deal so there isn't the possibility of either. But since it makes you feel so good to throw those threats around, I'm sure you'll let them know how you feel.

Spike

 

[Ames]

Nah he got it when he was doing your wife! Even she hates you! LMAO, BTW I graduated High School in 1972 I must be at my reunion. Seems about the same level of intellectual discourse now as then. I'm pretty you guys can sink lower!

Hard to believe that YOU are discussing low intellectual discourse with a post like this. Grow up.

 

[Ames]

Making such wild eyed accusations because you haven't received a pay raise at the expense of those junior to you..

priceless. 😛

It wasn't an accusation. It is a cold, hard fact.

 

[Phoenix]

Priceless????

Quite the contrary.....we can definitely put a price on the damages caused by the scabs and their DFR job theft program.


PS...."those junior" to me will remain junior to me, denying them the chance to scab my job is not their "expense", so I see no "wild eyed accusations" at all. Only a scab supporter upset his scab friends and their scab union are failures.

You are a riot!

Tell the truth, if the East stole West jobs (the West has pilots on furlough)... then it is your position that East newhires are working West jobs and are therefore.... say it... say it... Don't be a coward. Say it, now!

 

[Move2CLT]

This east on east violence is going to make the next three years even more interest and less productive.

So looking forward to the east drama.




We at the Compass Correction have a nagging suspicion that National Officers Elections are ongoing at our Union, but could find no written evidence from USAPA to confirm that fact.

Mike Cleary came into office promising a 45-day process for obtaining a date of hire contract. He promised a successful strike, should that process fail. He promised a war on management, for their treatment of the pilots. Mike Cleary leaves office having waged war on his political opponents, and the lawyers who extended credit to USAPA when it was only a dream and who helped to birth this union.

-Eric Rowe, Captain, PHL
For the Compass Correction


What a coincidence! TheEye was thinking along the exact same lines as Captain Rowe, except we were wondering where candidates Hummel and Bradford have been hiding the last few weeks. Ah, lest we forget that the true candidate for USAPA President is Captain Rowe. 

Rowe would like us to believe that everything is Mike Cleary’s fault. That somehow his chosen puppets have clean hands in the failures of USAPA. After all, Gary Hummel is the current Executive Vice-President and Steve Bradford is the founding President. They have both been intimately involved in USAPA from the very beginning. Yet, both have maintained strict radio silence during the troubling events of the last few weeks. 

Hummel and Bradford’s silence on both the ongoing censorship by our Communications Committee and the outrageous lawsuit filed against Lee Seham is troubling to say the least. Nothing prevents them from taking a public stand against these egregious acts. Yet, all we hear are crickets. 

But as you will see with the next quote from Compass Correction writer Captain Woody Menear from 2009, this pattern from Hummel and Bradford is not new. 

The Board meetings do run well, that is true. This is primarily because there is seldom unified disagreement by Board Members with the assertions and “leadership” of certain of our Officers. 

By the way, the Founders, Steve Bradford and Mark King have been largely silent at the meetings in which I have participated, for reasons known only to them.

-Captain Woody Menear 2/16/2009

 

[Freighterguynow]

This east on east violence is going to make the next three years even more interest and less productive.

Speaking of being productive why don't you update your resume - you're going to need it.


Scabs, clowns and west job stealers not withstanding.

 

[Move2CLT]

Speaking of being productive why don't you update your resume - you're going to need it.


Scabs, clowns and west job stealers not withstanding.

Am I going to Republic? LMAO.

Dream on. The Nic is coming.

 

[Freighterguynow]

Dream on. The Nic is coming.

Pretty personal but you'll just have to ask him. There is a merger in the works and nobody needs a PHX hub.

 

[Move2CLT]

So you think we all disappear?

I'll be in CLT before you know it. LMAO.

But seriously, let me tell you how it's going to happen since your perpetual wet dream keeps clouding your logic:

Merger
Contract
SLI
Integration complete
Base adjustments/closures

As you can see, we'll be integrated before any bases are closed. I would then just bid CLT if I could hold it. I'd have alot of you easties below me.

BTW, PHX won't close. The crew count might go down but it won't close.

 

[EastCheats]

So you think we all disappear?

I'll be in CLT before you know it. LMAO.

But seriously, let me tell you how it's going to happen since your perpetual wet dream keeps clouding your logic:

Merger
Contract
SLI
Integration complete
Base adjustments/closures

As you can see, we'll be integrated before any bases are closed. I would then just bid CLT if I could hold it. I'd have alot of you easties below me.



BTW, PHX won't close. The crew count might go down but it won't close.

I'll be right there with you. You know any realtors in CLT? I spend enough there anyway and might as well start looking. It's a shame when PHX closes that some people will go back to their old positions they left in 2005. Tough job market, wish them luck.