US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Move2CLT]

Guess you can just wallow in your hatred.

FA

Said the eastie.

 

[Metroyet]

Dysfunctional? Just because we won't accept our junior guys getting hurt is hardly dysfunctional. Dysfunctional is clinging to a chance at a shot from midcourt when you are on your back, with .5 seconds remaining. That is where you stand with this deal with AA supposedly coming. Your choice. 😱 😱 New sheet of MUSIC coming. You are NOT going to like it 😀

A scab is a scab. Music is no different than the rest. BFD. He's just another cheerleader to a band of failures.

 

[EastCheats]

Nice Cheats,

Guess you can just wallow in your hatred. Do you eat with that mouth?

FA

Not a hater son, I pity you.

 

[fatherabraham]

Said the eastie.

Boo Boo,

I think it a far reach to attribute " Hate " to my post. Look at typical definition below and seriously consider if the likes of Nic/Cheats/res etc more relate.


hate  (ht)
v. hat·ed, hat·ing, hates
v.tr.
1.
a. To feel hostility or animosity toward.
b. To detest.
2. To feel dislike or distaste for: hates washing dishes.
v.intr.
To feel hatred.
n.
1. Intense animosity or dislike; hatred.


FA

 

[Move2CLT]

So with Naugler now added to the extensive list of east failures, the DJ is up next.

Didn't USAPA reference this very case for its argument in the DJ? Why yes it did!

So with MDA dismissed, their DJ chances have been shot to hell. One card falling after another.

If Music fails to get elected, the McKee/Cleary clan becomes nothing but an observer. I wonder what their going to call the anti-Hummel newsletter?

Nic is coming faster than the east can imagine. With this impending merger, the Nic will finally be used to integrate USAPA with the APA and the east will have no power to stop it.

I will finish this post with a reference to Gershon's opinion:

Page 18:

"Thus, accepting a job offer from MDA was not a recall to fl[y] for the mainline. It was simply an acceptance of a job offer to fly for MidAtlantic Airways."

 

[nic4us]

Nic,

Will you be treating me pleasantly if your Nic career fails?
Thx for the sans "S word " post. I knew you could do it!

FA

But of course.

If in the end usapa is successful and steals my job I will be the guy in envoy who retired early.

That is if there is an envoy left after the West and Polsinelli take the company for huge damages...er.. I guess it will be the Flagship experience.

 

[fatherabraham]

But of course.

If in the end usapa is successful and steals my job I will be the guy in envoy who retired early.

That is if there is an envoy left after the West and Polsinelli take the company for huge damages...er.. I guess it will be the Flagship experience.

Nic,

Dream even bigger........you may get the same baseless lawsuits with AA as well.

FA

 

[nic4us]

So with Naugler now added to the extensive list of east failures, the DJ is up next.

Didn't USAPA reference this very case for its argument in the DJ? Why yes it did!

So with MDA dismissed, their DJ chances have been shot to hell. One card falling after another.

If Music fails to get elected, the McKee/Cleary clan becomes nothing but an observer. I wonder what their going to call the anti-Hummel newsletter?

Nic is coming faster than the east can imagine. With this impending merger, the Nic will finally be used to integrate USAPA with the APA and the east will have no power to stop it.

I will finish this post with a reference to Gershon's opinion:

Page 18:

"Thus, accepting a job offer from MDA was not a recall to fl[y] for the mainline. It was simply an acceptance of a job offer to fly for MidAtlantic Airways."

If the company does not start collecting for the overpayment of the MDA guys within two weeks.....guess we have our smoking gun!

 

[Move2CLT]

If the company does not start collecting for the overpayment of the MDA guys within two weeks.....guess we have our smoking gun!

Great question to ask at the next town hall.

"Mr. Parker, you were quick to take back DL money that were overpaid to the west. Do you plan on being as quick with the east pilots?"

 

[nic4us]

Nic,

Dream even bigger........you may get the same baseless lawsuits with AA as well.

FA

Not a chance.

If a merger with AA happens, no player will come to the table with any list other than the Nic. Well, usapa might, but they will then shortly thereafter no longer be a player.

Also, the way I understand LCC's position in an AA merger, LCC would be the acquiring corporation. So, all you have to ask yourself is what is the only system seniority list "accepted" by the CEO of LCC, and who would be left standing to sue?

The answere of course would be the new corporation, whom I have a contract with that says in the AWA/US merger pilot seniority would be arranged by ALPA merger policy and that policy was followed to conclusion, and the APA who has a DFR to represent me.

Neither will use anything other than the Nic, less they have their merger overshadowed by the thought of losing billions to 1700 west pilots.

How much are the TWA guys asking for from ALPA? Multiply that times about three, because we would get to sue both the APA and the new corporation.

 

[Move2CLT]

Ok so we have two arbitrators that have said the MDA guys were furloughed. Now Judge Gershon has stated in her opinion that they were furloughed.

Will the easties:

1. Say she's wrong because she's senile and file an appeal, and declare supreme confidence in the upcoming win

2. Accept her opinion because two arbitrators said the EXACT SAME THING



I know, I know.

But it made me laugh.

 

[EastUS1]

Move2CLT: "Nic is coming faster than the east can imagine."

nic4us: "That is if there is an envoy left after the West and Polsinelli take the company for huge damages...er.. I guess it will be the Flagship experience."
nic4us: "Lucky for us...the company is about to get the Wake up call....collusion with a scab union has damages in the billions..."

"damages in the billions"..."damages in the billions"..."damages in the billions..."

If the company does not start collecting for the overpayment of the MDA guys within two weeks.....guess we have our smoking gun!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AznmrRZsRQ&feature=related

 

[Move2CLT]

Oh god, there he goes again. He can't use his big words so you goes to YouTube.

Yawn.

Does anyone here actually play his vids?

 

[Move2CLT]

Not a chance.

If a merger with AA happens, no player will come to the table with any list other than the Nic. Well, usapa might, but they will then shortly thereafter no longer be a player.

Also, the way I understand LCC's position in an AA merger, LCC would be the acquiring corporation. So, all you have to ask yourself is what is the only system seniority list "accepted" by the CEO of LCC, and who would be left standing to sue?

The answere of course would be the new corporation, whom I have a contract with that says in the AWA/US merger pilot seniority would be arranged by ALPA merger policy and that policy was followed to conclusion, and the APA who has a DFR to represent me.

Neither will use anything other than the Nic, less they have their merger overshadowed by the thought of losing billions to 1700 west pilots.

How much are the TWA guys asking for from ALPA? Multiply that times about three, because we would get to sue both the APA and the new corporation.

Spot f'in on.

 

[aquagreen73s]

Btw, the APA message board is buzzing about merger thoughts just like here. They couldn't care less about the Nic. They know it exists, they know it's the official list, and they'll do everything in their power to screw all if us if they get the chance.

It's a simple game theory calculation. If the goal is to screw as many Airways pilots as possible, does it make sense to act in a way which gives an element of the Airways pilots reasons to sue under a painfully ripe DFR? No. But turn the coin over and look at the other side: is it possible to have a valid legal claim by using a binding arbitration that was agreed to by all material parties? That's essentially what Judge Silver will be ruling on and even that case is a waste of time because the answer is self-evident: of course it's perfectly legal to use a binding arbitration.

ps. Wouldn't it be ironic if we merged with AA, got a list through binding arbitration, then the AA pilots decided to vote in a new union so they could staple the US Air pilots?

Miranda v. Arizona applied to airline integrations: what you say can and will be used against you.