US Pilots' Labor Thread 6/9-6/16--PLEASE OBSERVE THE RULES

[Richard]

Another Tuesday, another Pilots' Labor Thread.

There were still quite a few posts deleted, and a few people joined the regulars in the cornfield....

Another reminder, please do not post material from other sites or sources (such as emails) in their entirety without the express written permission of the author or publisher. You MAY post a lead paragraph and link but no more.

Thank you....

 

[700UW]

john john,
You are incorrect, all three of IAM represepented work groups tried to reach a new CBA with the company during the last bankruptcy.

The Maintenance Training Specialist reached a new deal with the company that was ratified by the memberships.

Neither Fleet or M&R and the company reached a new deal, I know the M&R NC offered the company a full CBA that met the company's ask sans the pension, the company rejected the offer because it kept too many people employed.

The Judge then ruled on the Company's Section 1113 motion and abrogated Fleet and M&R's CBAs, the company then offered each side a final offer that the membership voted on and ratified.

I know I was part of the M&R Negotiating Committee at the time.

 

[oldiebutgoody]

That was ONLY because the company said they WOULD NOT file an 1113 motion in BK court if the unions agreed to their demands. EVERYTHING dealing with the running of the company, including ALL labor agreements CAN and many HAVE been abrogated in court.

 

[john john]

That was ONLY because the company said they WOULD NOT file an 1113 motion in BK court if the unions agreed to their demands. EVERYTHING dealing with the running of the company, including ALL labor agreements CAN and many HAVE been abrogated in court.

There were several modifications to all US union contracts before bankruptcy
All unions on the property amend there contracts and side letters all done before filing bankruptcy
REMEMBER CONCESSIONS
Bottom line union contracts can have changes modifications and can be amended if the parties agree

 

[BoeingBoy]

All unions on the property amend there contracts and side letters all done before filing bankruptcy

I think you need to double check that if you're talking about BK2.

Jim

 

[700UW]

In the first chapter 11 the IAM did not reach any agreement until after bankruptcy was filed and M&R even voted down the first concessionary agreement, then another one was ratified and then a second round ,and we all know what happened in BK PArt Deux

 

[ableoneable]

USAPA Update

Item Six: Due to their non-union status, the JetBlue pilots formed a Compensation & Benefits Committee...issued an “Interim Progress Reportâ€￾ about a week ago...[which] effectively comprises a Tentative Agreement. ...A320 Captain - $176.44 ...These rates are in line with USAPA’s proposed pay rates as we seek an industry-standard contract for all US Airways pilots.

So USAPA is proposing rates less than the "snapback" rates. They had better not be a witness at their own arbitration because it looks like they don't believe those are real rates either.

 

[luvn737s]

Does Seham know that JetBlue is non-union? That's a gold-mine just looking for a shaft! Until you've sued everyone and everything, the world's your oyster (which you should consider suing for conspiring to keep you from the pearl you deserve).

 

[AWE_SHUCKS]

:rant:

 

[N924PS]

:rant:

Corporal Agarn! How are things at Fort Courage?

 

[AWE_SHUCKS]

Corporal Agarn! How are things at Fort Courage?

Not good. Letters are coming guys, please pay up. We are owed over $2 million bucks! we need this money guys, fun time is over.

 

[Tiger 1050]

Well this blows...

 

[hp_fa]

???

 

[BoeingBoy]

???

I've got a sneaking suspicion that Tiger is referring to his signature line...

Jim

 

[Tiger 1050]

Actually it was a rather immature dig at the lack of happenings here... Where is everybody?