US Pilots' Labor Thread 6/9-6/16--PLEASE OBSERVE THE RULES

[hp_fa]

I was busy proving to Snoop that I could go 72 hours and not post in here. 🙂

 

[cleardirect]

Not good. Letters are coming guys, please pay up. We are owed over $2 million bucks! we need this money guys, fun time is over.

That is currently owed. That figure may go to zero at the end of the month. If arbitration goes the west way. We may not owe from April to December.

It would be a waste of paper and time to send letters only to find out they don't mean anything.

 

[BoeingBoy]

Actually it was a rather immature dig at the lack of happenings here... Where is everybody?

My mistake...

Jim

 

[malikie]

Actually it was a rather immature dig at the lack of happenings here... Where is everybody?

I think they may be in the cornfield.

 

[Richard]

Folks,

Let's stay on the topic at hand, not the thread or the other members...

Maybe people realize it's all been said over and over again......

I am sure with the next development in the court it will pick up again.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Maybe people realize it's all been said over and over again......

I am sure with the next development in the court it will pick up again.

...and sadly, it will yet again be the same things over and over again.

 

[Objector]

Not good. Letters are coming guys, please pay up. We are owed over $2 million bucks! we need this money guys, fun time is over.
[/quote

Keep sending those letters. I'll make sure they make it to file 13.

 

[Elevation]

Guilty of a DFR
40% of members not paying dues
Giving union officers a raise

Priceless

Day 3 began with the hot topic of Officer and other full-time Union Pilots’ compensation. After a lengthy and productive discussion, including the acknowledgment that all Officers, Reps, and other full-time Union workers, spend countless hours doing the work of the Pilots, it was determined that the proper compensation be as follows.

President 85 hours + $1,500/mo stipend
Other Officers 85 hours + $1,250/mo stipend
Other full time workers 85 hours + $1,000/mo stipend

 

[hp_fa]

Wasn't one of the campaign promises of USAPA about lower compensation to these people?

 

[Metroyet]

Not good. Letters are coming guys, please pay up. We are owed over $2 million bucks! we need this money guys, fun time is over.

Correction. It's your OPINION that you are owed 2 million bucks. That arbitrated decision will be out shortly. Secondly, your calculation that 94.1% of all costs are germane is also your OPINION. That will be arbitrated/litigated as necessary. That wheel is already in motion.

The West is Owed FAIR REPRESENTATION. That Is NOT a matter of opinion. In fact it's a matter of established law which was more specifically reaffirmed in Federal Court in which your side was handed it's own rear end.

As much as USAPA would love to be omnipotent dictators, and collect their taxes from the insignificant serfs that toil in their shiny little Kingdom, It just isn't so.

 

[Elevation]

Wasn't one of the campaign promises of USAPA about lower compensation to these people?

But that was only a promise, which as we know...

 

[ussnark]

Wasn't one of the campaign promises of USAPA about lower compensation to these people?

You have no idea how out-of-whack the compensation to ALPA officials was. The ALPA mother-ship protected many of those entitled beneficiaries and somewhat explains why those no longer on the dole are so cynical about the "new" group.

At least one poster on here was the beneficiary of such largesse, you can probably guess his screen name. The mother-ship even blocked any grass-root effort to put a recall for him up for a vote.

Entitlement? Like nothing you could even imagine.

I can only imagine the loss to the west ALPA side.

 

[Elevation]

The Reps from LAS and PHX brought forward a couple of Resolutions..... The next Resolution dealt with a study to determine the feasibility of assisting E-190 F/O’s by having them do Union work and providing for a hotel room while they do this work. One of our CLT E-190 F/O’s stood and spoke in opposition to this resolution, as he considered it a waste of resources(But an additional $9,500+ a month stipend for the union officers is not a waste of resources?). It is also not clear if it would fall under the proper duties of a Labor Union(Like DFR?). The Resolution was defeated( it was a west idea vote it down). As commentary we offer that while we agree with helping out those among us who need it most, it truly is not a Primary Union function. We are looking into other avenues which may be more beneficial to all. (Here's an idea how about a new contract)

 

[boeingplt]

The Reps from LAS and PHX brought forward a couple of Resolutions..... The next Resolution dealt with a study to determine the feasibility of assisting E-190 F/O’s by having them do Union work and providing for a hotel room while they do this work. One of our CLT E-190 F/O’s stood and spoke in opposition to this resolution, as he considered it a waste of resources(But an additional $9,500+ a month stipend for the union officers is not a waste of resources?). It is also not clear if it would fall under the proper duties of a Labor Union(Like DFR?). The Resolution was defeated( it was a west idea vote it down). As commentary we offer that while we agree with helping out those among us who need it most, it truly is not a Primary Union function. We are looking into other avenues which may be more beneficial to all. (Here's an idea how about a new contract)

The resolution on compensation passed unanimously, so maybe those LAS and PHX reps acted on the whole story and not just rhetoric such as the above

 

[EastUS]

The resolution on compensation passed unanimously, so maybe those LAS and PHX reps acted on the whole story and not just rhetoric such as the above

A less charitable observation would be that said west reps, just possibly, saw something in it for themselves. Naaah!...That'd be entirely unthinkable..what with all that "integrity" and all.