What's With AWA F/A's writting people up?

[l8rd8r]

Look at that FA on the CLT crew news getting all bent out of shape about announcements that were made on a AWA a/c, there's part of your 1%. :wacko:

So...thanking your pax for flying the "NEW USAIRWAYS" formerly OWNED AND OPERATED BY AMERICA WEST is only upsetting 1% of the work force??? Think again.

 

[l8rd8r]

Dexter,

With all due respect you paint with to broad a brush. Like most things in life no one is 100% right or wrong and that goes for work groups as well.

We have a significant body of evidence presented since merger that some if not all of West InFlight manage in a very 1950's style. Since we are now in 2007 I think it's safe to assume that a style of1950's Management fear & intimidation is not the most enlightened or productive way to go. Think about how you might respond to those tactics and consider that some may be truly desperate to hold their jobs for whatever reasons.

Consider a tale of two carriers if you will. One empowers their employees to make decisions and the worst we hear is someone got denied boarding for a short skirt or a dumb slogan on a T-Shirt. Now contrast that to US Airways attitude towards employees and the "stellar" performance of this juggernaut as measured by the DOT and others?

Empowerment versus Fear & Intimidation

Admired Carrier versus Despised Carrier

Leading DOT performance versus Dead last with the DOT

Cause & Effect?

You tell me.

P, you are dead on right!..I commute on the former AWA and the crews have shared horror stories..write ups for shoes with any type of decorative stiching, one to many buttons undone, $2.00 short on liquor count, not reading the exact announcement, serving any hot beverage when the seat belt is on (using your judgement is not allowed). F/A's sitting in the last row of seats, taking water to your room on an overnight (or anything else). Not wearing your apron during service, not enough trash pick up announcements or too many trash pick up announcements.
The F/A crew area has a room in the center called "the bubble" (naming from the f/a's), small minded mgmt sit there watching for any uniform violations. Spot checks. F/A's talk about fear and intimidation each time they go through those doors (great way to start work). Keep in mind Arizona is a "right to work" state. They could fire at will and did. Also, the F/A's are operating under there first union contract ever. Employee rights are very new to them. It reminds me of the old regional airline mentality of PSA. We had that same BS and same fear. Chips in your nail polish, hair not worn right. Heck, I remember an F/A with long hair being made to cut bangs. I love our mgnt crew in PHL (majority) especially our Andrew. Due to cut backs and the BKs most mgmt was cut. Those that stayed loved the work and people. Not much BS and absolutely no fear and intimidation.

 

[US1YFARE]

Ever have a complete stranger TOUCH YOU, PULL ON YOUR CLOTHES, POKE YOU?

Mmmm...sounds like fun

Don't respond about seeing the world...that does nothing to them...instead reply, oh, what happened? You failed the test and you lick envelopes at home now? Or maybe if you don't want to get written up, with a big smile on your face say....you should still be one, you seem like you would be perfect!

 

[drrstrav]

sky high states: your ignorance is obvious to me. I'm assuming you flew from PHX to LAS for your first non-rev flight. It's BLOCKED for 1hour and approx. 7 minutes. Seeing that there's THREE FLIGHT ATTENDANTS on the plane for ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOUR PASSENGERS, she did the right thing. It was QUICKER to find out WHAT YOU WANTED as opposed to what you might want based on the selection of beverages inflight. West F/A's on this site can tell you how nerve racking that flight can be based on alcoholic beverages, full flight, etc. I'm not sure the average FLIGHT TIME on that route is, Westie?.....but, IT'S QUICK. Each flight attendant is basically serving FORTY ONE passengers IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
As opposed to "what do you want?"..........saying, "what do you LIKE?"..sounds less offensive...and that's what Most say.

HOLIER THAN THOU ATTITUDE?.......that's usually a defensive reaction to how people TREAT flight attendants. I can't tell you how many times I hear, "Ohhh, I wanted to be a "waitress in the sky" too, years ago". I reply, "ohhh, I've SEEN THE WORLD, you know, that free travel and all. Plus, I work 12 days this month. Ever have a complete stranger TOUCH YOU, PULL ON YOUR CLOTHES, POKE YOU? Most of us, dont even point out how wrong that is to the passenger!
In most workplaces, that might be considered, sexual harrassment.
ONLY STATING OPINIONS

45 min from take-off to landing. First 10 min and the last 10 min isbellow 10 000 feets, thus leaves 25 min to serve, clean up and prepare the cabin. Usually 150 or 190 pax for 3 or 4 F/As. It is really short time,thus you do not have min to spare and stand there and recite the Beverage list to the Pax. It is not like at the Ramp where you may take your sweet time to load the bags, and if you forget a few , "Oh well it will go later" Peod, is an arrogant, not knowledgable, etc person

 

[hp_fa]

45 min from take-off to landing. First 10 min and the last 10 min isbellow 10 000 feets, thus leaves 25 min to serve, clean up and prepare the cabin.

And that is assuming that there is no significant turbulance and that the Captain lets the FA's get up at 10k or doesn't have them seated early.

 

[N965VJ]

[quote name='PO'ed PHX Ramper' post='534942' date='Oct 15 2007, 11:04 PM']<SNIP> That's the LAST position I would apply for being a straight young male. I wouldn't want your male flight attendents looking down at me all the time with contempt....[/quote]
Is that really a picture of you in your avatar? You look hot when you’re angry! Do you work out?

Maybe we could go have a few drinks the next long PHX overnight I have. You said you’re young; would you like to borrow my fake ID? It has Cher’s photo on it, but that’s another story…

 

[US1YFARE]

Is that really a picture of you in your avatar? You look hot when you?re angry! Do you work out?

Maybe we could go have a few drinks the next long PHX overnight I have. You said you?re young; would you like to borrow my fake ID? It has Cher?s photo on it, but that?s another story?

He likes anything with malibu rum in it. I knew he was fun, probably hung, but under 21??? Ruh roh.

I love cher...I go out as her at least once a week..I like her look from her last tour rather than in moonstruck or silkwood...although at 4 am I usually look like sissy spacek...if I could turn back time....

 

[SKY HIGH]

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[PO'ed PHX Ramper]

LOL dance monkeys!!!

Show everybody your true colors.

I want to make clear though, every East flight attendant I have dealt with was just a doll. As far as how I treat FA's, I have NEVER once talked back. NEVER until now. I just turned around, walked back up the jetway, and boarded the plane.

Even when I was snubbed by a male flight attendant when I asked a simple question. He thought it more important to make small talk with the CSA I was mentoring.... Who is gay and is now a good friend.
Never said a word besides how many PAX were on board, and then SLAM that door came flying. I almost lost all of my fingers one day.



Really? you think being a ramper is ho-hum I forgot a bag. Well, I know that assumption is based on pure ignorance, and it is a bigger waste of time for us lazy rampers to miss a few bags then it is to get them there on time. You come work in my world for a day. Right around the 8 AM bank, you will see how lazy we are lol. Shoot, come work as a gate agent for that matter and try asking one of your co workers to board a plane, then you will see exactly what i'm talking about! It's funny watching flight attendants procrastinate because they haven't had a long enough break in between turns. I bet those old joints could really use a soak after a long vegas turn.

 

[US1YFARE]

[quote name='PO'ed PHX Ramper' post='535167' date='Oct 16 2007, 05:28 PM']Even when I was snubbed by a male flight attendant when I asked a simple question.[/quote]
That means he LIKES you...and he didn't want you to think he was easy...or you look straight and he didn't want you to punch him....before ANT question, you should say, this reminds me of that lifetime movie I watched last night, we have 3 wheelchairs...

 

[N965VJ]

[quote name='PO'ed PHX Ramper' post='535167' date='Oct 16 2007, 04:28 PM']<SNIP> I want to make clear though, every East flight attendant I have dealt with was just a doll.[/quote]
You mean like the Ken doll with the Kung-Fu grip?

Floyd used to have that before arthritis set in.

 

[drrstrav]

[quote name='PO'ed PHX Ramper' post='535167' date='Oct 16 2007, 03:28 PM']LOL dance monkeys!!!

Show everybody your true colors.

I want to make clear though, every East flight attendant I have dealt with was just a doll. As far as how I treat FA's, I have NEVER once talked back. NEVER until now. I just turned around, walked back up the jetway, and boarded the plane.

Even when I was snubbed by a male flight attendant when I asked a simple question. He thought it more important to make small talk with the CSA I was mentoring.... Who is gay and is now a good friend.
Never said a word besides how many PAX were on board, and then SLAM that door came flying. I almost lost all of my fingers one day.
Really? you think being a ramper is ho-hum I forgot a bag. Well, I know that assumption is based on pure ignorance, and it is a bigger waste of time for us lazy rampers to miss a few bags then it is to get them there on time. You come work in my world for a day. Right around the 8 AM bank, you will see how lazy we are lol. Shoot, come work as a gate agent for that matter and try asking one of your co workers to board a plane, then you will see exactly what i'm talking about! It's funny watching flight attendants procrastinate because they haven't had a long enough break in between turns. I bet those old joints could really use a soak after a long vegas turn.[/quote]

Guess what, wrong again. Most of us either "cross trained" or worked as a "Gate Agent" , before becoming F/As. During cross training, one part of the job was being a "ramper", hence you are not telling us anything we did not do.
As for you fingers, the F/A can't injury your fingers by closing the A/c door if you adher to your policy and procedures as a gate agent. The only time you can be injured, if you decide to do an F/A job , and "play " with the guss lock.
Lucky for you, you do not need to interact with in flight anymore, accept when you come up and "raid" our cart and bins for adult beverages.

 

[WCT]

He likes anything with malibu rum in it. I knew he was fun, probably hung, but under 21??? Ruh roh.

I love cher...I go out as her at least once a week..I like her look from her last tour rather than in moonstruck or silkwood...although at 4 am I usually look like sissy spacek...if I could turn back time....

And the beat goes on......! That is hilarious.

 

[USstew23]

And the beat goes on......! That is hilarious.

Taxi Taxi give me a ride I'm gonna take you to the other side ----- Taxi Taxi turn off your lights, Im gonna RIDE with you all night.----HHHOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!

 

[PO'ed PHX Ramper]

WTF is this dialogue? Liberachi?