2015 Fleet Service thread

[Kev3188]

Yep.

 

[Albert]

If you put his response up to the comment he was referring to bob, I think you can figure out he is saying "I disagree, the company already knows what they are gonna give us".

Thanks, I only had 1 semester of community college so  my punctuation suffers plus Bob is a moron

 

[Albert]

Al, while i never been in negotiations myself the 99 agreement was far superior for fleet esp compared to the ch 11 deals and our 2014 one is far better than the previous one now that we are one airline id say use the 2014 deal and improve everything enhance scope wages benefits etc its time to stop looking in the past but to move forward

Didnt we turn down the first 99 agreement? Plus it took 5 years to get and it was ripped up in bankruptcy

 

[700UW]

You all voted in the IAM in 1995 and got your first CBA in 1999, guess math isnt your strong suit either?

 

[bob@las-AA]

If you put his response up to the comment he was referring to bob, I think you can figure out he is saying "I disagree, the company already knows what they are gonna give us".

 
 

Thanks, I only had 1 semester of community college so  my punctuation suffers plus Bob is a moron

No-No talk, I'll send you some money to get a new avitar, your old one is starting to get old,
and Bert, you should get your money back from that CC and put it towards your 401K.

 

[Albert]

You all voted in the IAM in 1995 and got your first CBA in 1999, guess math isnt your strong suit either?

should have voted for the steelworkers

 

[Albert]

 
 
No-No talk, I'll send you some money to get a new avitar, your old one is starting to get old,
and Bert, you should get your money back from that CC and put it towards your 401K.

That was 1977 CC was only about $750 a semester. Thats less than you drop 1 day at the Bunny Ranch and all you do is talk to the girl. Oh yeah they do give you a martini in a paper cup though

 

[Albert]

You all voted in the IAM in 1995 and got your first CBA in 1999, guess math isnt your strong suit either?

Im glad I cant add  if I actually knew how much the IAM cost me (dues,Pay cuts and money lost in  prolonged negotiations) Id go out of my mind

 

[700UW]

Cost you?
 
Go back to 1992 and how did the company treat you when you were non-union after the pilots agreed to concessions?
 
Remember what you let them take from you?
 
You have gained way more than you have allegedly claim you lost.

 

[Albert]

Cost you?
 
Go back to 1992 and how did the company treat you when you were non-union after the pilots agreed to concessions?
 
Remember what you let them take from you?
 
You have gained way more than you have allegedly claim you lost.

I did great  without a union from 1978 to 1989 and then the mergers started I also remember a paycut I got back plus more before the union.Ill never get back what I lost since  I joined the IAM

 

[700UW]

Dementia?

They' froze your pension, took away your sick time, vacation time, OJI time, downgraded 40% to part-time, contracted out mail, freight, and express work.

And due to the downgrades the family insurance for part timers sky rocketed.

Conviently forgotten about that?

 

[Albert]

Dementia?

They' froze your pension, took away your sick time, vacation time, OJI time, downgraded 40% to part-time, contracted out mail, freight, and express work.

And due to the downgrades the family insurance for part timers sky rocketed.

Conviently forgotten about that?

The list of what was negotiated away with the union is a lot longer. Heck  you negotiated to farm out your own job. I never heard of someone actually voting themselves out of a job  but the cleaners did then the IAM actually had the balls to  organize and sign up their replacements. Is that the solidarity all you IAM supporters speak of?

 

[ograc]

The list of what was negotiated away with the union is a lot longer. Heck  you negotiated to farm out your own job. I never heard of someone actually voting themselves out of a job  but the cleaners did then the IAM actually had the balls to  organize and sign up their replacements. Is that the solidarity all you IAM supporters speak of?

 
Never heard of someone voting themselves out of a job? One only needs to look at what is happening currently under the most recent UA agreements. Many members voting for a TA that would ultimately cost them their jobs. I witnessed it first hand in my station and local. A station that was left with no scope protection for those employed by LCO and UA. Locally, it passed by the same margin it did system wide. It is the LACK of solidarity that I speak of and am concerned with. As I stated before; WITHOUT solidarity... don't expect much. When members' thoughts and priorities are self centered and short sighted we lose the ability to make long term improvements to any contract. The historic mindset must change. Not only among the members but among the NCs and their respective unions that make up this Association.
 

 

[Albert]

 
Never heard of someone voting themselves out of a job? One only needs to look at what is happening currently under the most recent UA agreements. Many members voting for a TA that would ultimately cost them their jobs. I witnessed it first hand in my station and local. A station that was left with no scope protection for those employed by LCO and UA. Locally, it passed by the same margin it did system wide. It is the LACK of solidarity that I speak of and am concerned with. As I stated before; WITHOUT solidarity... don't expect much. When members' thoughts and priorities are self centered and short sighted we lose the ability to make long term improvements to any contract. The historic mindset must change. Not only among the members but among the NCs and their respective unions that make up this Association.
 

 It sounds like they must have been misinformed and or misled.   By whom or what  hmmm...? Could it have been by an organization in the ASS ?

 

[700UW]

The list of what was negotiated away with the union is a lot longer. Heck  you negotiated to farm out your own job. I never heard of someone actually voting themselves out of a job  but the cleaners did then the IAM actually had the balls to  organize and sign up their replacements. Is that the solidarity all you IAM supporters speak of?

Clueless we never reached an agreement with the company and I was a Stock Clerk, my job was safe and not outsourced.

We never organized the vendors.

Keep up the misinformation.