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traderjake said:
We're making progress here. 
 
Sorry, but given your posting history alone "LT Hardy";  I'd require a case file from your therapist before accepting that at face value.
 
traderjake said:
 
So you admit there's no difference between USAPA and organized crime organizations?
 
We're making progress here. 
Yet just one more reason why we need more money in public education.
 
P.S. I'm still a bit curious about this bit: "No matter, as we were all hugely impressed watching the very best your "army" could apparently, really do by "heroicially" letting poor, hapless little Susi show up with her kids for sympathy and beg for mercy. Never send a mighty "spartan" to do a woman with children's work, I suppose?....Must have something to to do with all that "battle"-tested-"valor" and "knightly" code of conduct....?"
 
Is it truly the sad case that "you'se" just couldn't find any "real"..umm..."men" of "Sparta" anywhere around to stand instead? Where was the self-styled "Supreme Commander" of your pwecious widdle "army" even?
 
For that matter; Where were YOU "cactusboy" and "cactuspilot"/whatever?....Too busy hiding in the shadows behind a woman's skirt? That was certainly some truly "heroic integrity" and "valor" soaked "knights" behavior that "you'se" widdle "army" demonstrated there. Sign me off as entirely unimpressed.
 
CactusPilot1 said:
....You earned my disdain.
 
My wager's always open to any and all pathetic little punks like "you'se". Feel perfectly free to demonstrate "you'se" mighty "disdain" for the whole world to see at your earliest convenience. It's a troubled little planet we live on, and all of us could use some more good laughs on any given day. 😉
 
P.S. Don't "spartan"-up and just send poor little Susi and her kids instead...umm..."soldier"....and please do make sure to proudly sport a "Liberty" tie for best video effects. "You'se" would naturally, I'd think, wish to permanently show the world just who you really are and what you're made of for even purely harmless, recreational flying...Right? Frantic cries of "But! But!...This is Sparta!" I'll leave optional.
 
Case 2:10-cv-01570-ROS Document 193 Filed 10/11/12 Page 8 of 9

appears totally committed to a particular seniority regime, it is not possible to determine the viability of any claim for breach of the duty of fair representation until a particular seniority regime is ratified. When the collective bargaining agreement is finalized, individuals will be able to determine whether USAPA’s abandonment of the Nicolau Award was permissible, i.e. supported by a legitimate union purpose. Thus, the best “declaratory judgment” the Court can offer is that USAPA’s seniority proposal does not automatically breach its duty of fair representation.3
 
Case 2:10-cv-01570-ROS Document 193 Filed 10/11/12 Page 9 of 9

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED the Clerk of Court shall enter judgment dismissing Counts I and III of the complaint and in favor of US Airline Pilots Association on Count II of the complaint stating US Airline Pilots Association’s seniority proposal does not breach its duty of fair representation provided it is supported by a legitimate union purpose.

DATED this 11th day of October, 2012.

Roslyn O. Silver

Senior United States District Judge
 
“In the US Airways – America West case, it went to binding arbitration but there was a requirement as part of that that the two unions negotiate a joint contract with the company, which wasn’t done yet.

And because it wasn’t done yet, the side that didn’t like it could prevent a joint contract from getting done. And because of that, the seniority integration never happened."

Scott Kirby






Face the facts westicles..........
 
cactusboy53 said:
nevergiveup, Really?  It is required to either pay dues (or the objector slightly lesser alternative).  IMHO paying the full dues was better, as it allowed you the protection of the collective bargaining agent in all matters (even if USAPA didn't like it).  It's either that or get fired for non-payment of dues.  What a STUPID question.
I thought I saw a video of a meeting where several west pilots said they would never pay USAPA dues, is that a lack of integrity or were they just stupid?
 
AWE Dog said:
I thought I saw a video of a meeting where several west pilots said they would never pay USAPA dues, is that a lack of integrity or were they just stupid?
 
No offense Brother, but you're clearly overlooking the blatantly obvious here: "is that a lack of integrity or were they just stupid?"  Answer C: = Both A and B.
 
luvthe9 said:
“In the US Airways – America West case, it went to binding arbitration but there was a requirement as part of that that the two unions negotiate a joint contract with the company, which wasn’t done yet.

And because it wasn’t done yet, the side that didn’t like it could prevent a joint contract from getting done. And because of that, the seniority integration never happened."

Scott Kirby






Face the facts westicles..........
And it didn't half to be east or west to prevent the contract. It could have been something all of the FOs disliked and they could have voted it down as well, or perhaps a low airbus pay rate and they would have voted it down. Any type of majority.
 
traderjake said:
So you admit there's no difference between USAPA and organized crime organizations?
 
We're making progress here.
The sky is blue. Is that good or bad? Ya gonna shake your fist and change it? :lol:

The next bid is good. Smile. It's good for your health. 🙂
 
Phoenix said:
The sky is blue. Is that good or bad? Ya gonna shake your fist and change it? :lol:

The next bid is good. Smile. It's good for your health. 🙂
 
Does posting smiley faces work also?
 
EastUS1 is gonna live to be 100. 
 
traderjake said:
 
Does posting smiley faces work also?
 
EastUS1 is gonna live to be 100. 
 
Many thanks for your kind wishes "LT Hardy"...I never in my wildest earlier dreams EVER even imagined living this long, so it's all good.
 
As just one human to another though "jake"... All differences aside; the best to you and yours as well.....stand by...wait for it.... 🙂
 
luvthe9 said:
Maybe you ask you boyfriend EastCheats.
 
I think EastCheats is more likely of the belle femme persuasion and extremely immature at that, but perhaps I've just been fooled by her/his posting style and "cute" coefficient, by way of cartoons/etc and generally "precious" presentations.
 
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