2015 Pilot Discussion.

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LIAR. CHEAT. THIEF.

Line cutter
Quota King
Thief

Learn that you don't cut in front others. Take what you earn. You are a thief.

 

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Paging F/O Mike Daley!
 

Sums up Cactusboy and the boys. Steal in Australia, steal in the U.S.
What is yours is mine, what is mine, is mine.
Cactusboy53. The future.

 

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It is out! New Bid!

Nice job Cactusboy.
Another bid you lost out on.
Your attempt to steal has paid back back bad karma.

 

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Paging F/O Mike Daley!
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5t5aE0iW4o

Geezus, how would you like to have that scab promo video follow you around the rest of your life ? And 1989 was when all the majors were hiring. How embarrassing.  
 
I was laid off from a corporate job due to a hostile takeover with a wife and two kids to   support in October 1983, when almost no one was hiring except for Continental strike breakers due to Reagan firing the controllers, but I refused to apply. We knew it was tough out there then. My former co-workers, my friends and my father all told me to scab. I would have easily hired because I had a DC9 type at the time. I would have had to flip myself off in the mirror, however, if I had put on a Continental uniform to scab for Lorenzo. I wouldn't do it, but damn, it was a discouraging time to lose a job. American was starting the B scale around then. 
 
Some guys from the corporate job scabbed. They are now probably 777 captains and ALPA members. What does that tell you about ALPA? At least APA vets its pilots. USAPA should have instead of just accepting former ALPA members as a vetting process. 
 
Fortunately two months later I was told that I would have a job with the highest paying airline in the industry before ALPA gave it all away.
 
New bid out. Forty-nine increase widebody lines. It isn't a United 777 or 747 bid, but I don't have the label of scab following me around.  

 

[luvthe9]

"Once again, U-Turn warned you. Guys, the AWAPPA leaders are the same ones who messed up when they were in office. Its time to stop listening to them. It may be too late now, but if you dont get your heads out of your sand........ "



All we at U-Turn can say is: WE TOLD YOU SO!



Dave Blomgren, for the Mighty U-Turn

 

[luvthe9]

"This makes it all the more disheartening to learn that the AWA MEC approached management and relayed that the "West pilots would be outraged if the East was granted parity." Such sentiment sinks to a level that is not representative of our profession or of unionism at its most basic form. The inescapable reality remains that we make less for doing the same job. And our bankruptcy-garnered wages continue to generate a stockpile of cash even during a period when our operation is at an all-time low."

If the leadership of the AWA MEC "would be outraged if the East was granted parity" would anybody be surprised if ALPA National placed the AWA MEC into trusteeship and appointed true union leaders to run their affairs?

The AWA MEC should be ashamed."

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

35 new hires a lot of upward movement due to the W/B guys retirements ! MM

 

[EastCheats]

Paging F/O Mike Daley!
 
Paging Usapaian and former fake union spokescab, James Ray 😉

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Paging? Heck you stole all our personal data just call him!

 

[CAVOK]

Paging F/O Mike Daley!
 
Paging Usapaian and former fake union spokescab, James Ray 😉

ALPA should have vetted out Ray years ago. He never would have been here. I am sure that AWA would have happily hired him. Piedmont MEC was sloppy and apparently USAPA also, taking in all former ALPA members.
 
I ran into a Delta captain on the jumpseat. He had been a Wien striker, Republic to Northwest to Delta. He didn't have much good to say about AWA. That was where Wien scabs went when the airline shut down. He said that the Wien scabs had priority at the AWA. Managements desire non-union scabs. Those Wien strikers had guts. It was a long strike and they were stabbed in the back by scabs.   
 
It hasn't been very encouraging having the West pilots bragging about reporting captains of the East for two engine taxi and willingness to gladly cross a USAPA picket line. A strike is what we may have needed to get a contract in order to implement a single seniority list which you wanted so badly. Not very bright of those West pilots. But it seems to be part of the corporate culture of AWA since its inception.  

 

[EastCheats]

ALPA should have vetted out Ray years ago. He never would have been here. I am sure that AWA would have happily hired him. Piedmont MEC was sloppy and apparently USAPA also, taking in all former ALPA members.
 
I ran into a Delta captain on the jumpseat. He had been a Wien striker, Republic to Northwest to Delta. He didn't have much good to say about AWA. That was where Wien scabs went when the airline shut down. He said that the Wien scabs had priority at the AWA. Managements desire non-union scabs. Those Wien strikers had guts. It was a long strike and they were stabbed in the back by scabs.   
 
It hasn't been very encouraging having the West pilots bragging about reporting captains of the East for two engine taxi and willingness to gladly cross a USAPA picket line. A strike is what we may have needed to get a contract in order to implement a single seniority list which you wanted so badly. Not very bright of those West pilots. But it seems to be part of the corporate culture of AWA since its inception.

USAPA was a union?

 

[EastCheats]

Pauley is not an FO anymore ... keep up.... while you guys have been stagnant in PHX... we have been upgrading all our guys you have been trying to screw with the NIC. And we will have all our guyd in the left seat before this is finished.
Enjoy what you have created

The APA will be scabs too if they accept the arbitration results? How are you going to stagnate the LAA pilots now that you are the minority?

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

The APA is our union plebes keep up!

 

[cactusboy53]

"....Regrettably but inevitably, there will be perceived disparities and mismatches by individuals on both sides under the merged list. George Nicolau's four basic verities of ISL arbitration are as apt and vital today as they were nearly a quarter of a century ago: each case turns on its own facts; the objective is to make the integration fair and equitable; the proposals advanced by those in contest rarely meet that standard;
and the end result, no matter how crafted, never commands universal acceptance." 
 
UAL/CAL Arbitrators
Dana Edward Eischen
 Roger P. Kaplan
 Dennis R. Nolan

 

[cactusboy53]

“Arbitration is a well-established and widely used means to end disputes. It is one of several kinds of Alternative Dispute Resolution, which provide parties to a controversy with a choice other than litigation. Unlike litigation, arbitration takes place out of court: the two sides select an impartial third party, known as an arbitrator; agree in advance to comply with the arbitrator's award; and then participate in a hearing at which both sides can present evidence and testimony.”
 
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