2015 Pilot Discussion.

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Nonsense
Drunk post

Wow, how original to explain your idiotic retort!

 

[im back..!!]

Obama, Ucrapa and the mugshot. I see the parallels..Failure and bad judgement.
Get the picture or do you want me to draw one?

I don't know what failure you see for me with USAPA. It was a total success...

It showed corporate America and there system, you can't take someone's seniority without crossing all the t's and dotting the I's....

The Nic was it, until there never was a contract to seal. The deal.... So, no the Nic isn't...

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Judge Tosses Pilots Union RICO Suit Against Rival

By Evan Weinberger
Law360, New York (July 15, 2008, 12:00 AM ET) -- A federal judge has dismissed a suit filed by a union representing pilots at U.S. Airways Group Inc. against a rival pilots' group seeking damages for violations of federal and state racketeering laws in the wake of the 2005 merger of U.S. Airways and America West Airlines.
Judge Martin Reidinger of U.S. District Court for the Western District of North Carolina ruled on Friday that the U.S. Airline Pilots Association's case against AWAPPA LLC did not meet the standards of the federal Racketeer and Corrupt Organizations...
 
Find the link yourself

I do not have to, "did not meet the standards" if you read your post snap there was something that caused a court action not the choirboy attitude your group portrays, again a link the the website would be helpful in transperency you know!

 

[im back..!!]

Your airline was days from liquidation.
Remind us how well Airways was doing in 2007. Two years after the acquisition.

Days from liquidation.. Says a paper reporter lookin for readers and a pilot looking for free seniority..

We didn't fail, nor did we liquidate.... And we didn't sign a contract needed to implement the Nic...
So... Here we are, .... Is the Nic valid? I'm not exactly sure...maybe, but maybe not... We will see, court will decide...

We will accept, and so will the west, any MB arbitration... As will the LAA ( there crazy to let it go to this), and move on....

 

[im back..!!]

You did not have any influence until Parker came along....
 
US Airways exited bankruptcy in 2003 and began to look for merger partners, as well as much-needed financing.  On May 4, 2004, the company became a member of the Star Alliance.  It also became one of the first major airlines to eliminate pilot pensions in order to cut costs.  Unable to secure any additional financing and facing labor disputes, the carrier entered a second bankruptcy on September 14, 2004.  Moreover, US Airways came close to liquidation during the Christmas holiday rush of 2004, as a result of widespread employee discontent that led to a high number of personnel calling in sick.

I didn't call in sick, no... I remember, I flew extra sections.... All the west owes me extra pay, they wouldn't be here at American, had I not flown those trips....

Those pilots owe me....lol...I'm sounding like an "Phx, islanders"....

 

[cactusboy53]

I don't know what failure you see for me with USAPA. It was a total success...
It showed corporate America and there system, you can't take someone's seniority without crossing all the t's and dotting the I's....
The Nic was it, until there never was a contract to seal. The deal.... So, no the Nic isn't...

Keep clicking those heels, Dorothy. Kansas is right around the corner.

You DO realize that repeating YOUR opinion more than once doesn't make it true, it just makes you sound ignorant. Right?

 

[cactusboy53]

I didn't call in sick, no... I remember, I flew extra sections.... All the west owes me extra pay, they wouldn't be here at American, had I not flown those trips....
Those pilots owe me....lol...I'm sounding like an "Phx, islanders"....

As you claim the PHX island shrinks, I wonder what the newly arbitrated list will allow me to bid?

Gillian, little buddy, it's a whole new world! See you boys SOON!

 

[luvthe9]

No NIC for you

 

[EastCheats]

No NIC for you

 
It's for you. 😉

 

[im back..!!]

Keep clicking those heels, Dorothy. Kansas is right around the corner.
You DO realize that repeating YOUR opinion more than once doesn't make it true, it just makes you sound ignorant. Right?

That would be making me sound like a westy then...

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

As you claim the PHX island shrinks, I wonder what the newly arbitrated list will allow me to bid?
Gillian, little buddy, it's a whole new world! See you boys SOON!

Short Call

 

[A320 Driver]

Judge Tosses Pilots Union RICO Suit Against Rival

By Evan Weinberger
Law360, New York (July 15, 2008, 12:00 AM ET) -- A federal judge has dismissed a suit filed by a union representing pilots at U.S. Airways Group Inc. against a rival pilots' group seeking damages for violations of federal and state racketeering laws in the wake of the 2005 merger of U.S. Airways and America West Airlines.
Judge Martin Reidinger of U.S. District Court for the Western District of North Carolina ruled on Friday that the U.S. Airline Pilots Association's case against AWAPPA LLC did not meet the standards of the federal Racketeer and Corrupt Organizations...
 
Find the link yourself

It doesn't say they weren't guilty of tying up the hot line with calls or that they didn't commit other juvenile offenses like sending poop through the mail. It said they can't be prosecuted under RICO. They did pay a price in lawyer fees for their stupidity...as it should be.

 

[snapthis]

It doesn't say they weren't guilty of tying up the hot line with calls or that they didn't commit other juvenile offenses like sending poop through the mail. It said they can't be prosecuted under RICO. They did pay a price in lawyer fees for their stupidity...as it should be.

Rob Streble, USAPA Treasurer claims his daughter opened the USAPA mail and found it. Was it bring your tween daughter to work day? Crap case and lost twice. Total BS.
 
The appeals court noted:
 
 
It is no surprise, then, that the conduct USAPA alleges
 
closely resembles conduct we have found not to demonstrate
 
continuity after H.J. Inc. See, e.g., GE Inv. Partners, 247 F.3d
 
 
at 549 (finding no continuity where the defendants’ "single
 
goal" was to fraudulently inflate the value of and then sell
 
their controlling interest in a company); Menasco, 886 F.2d at
 
 
684 (finding no continuity where "[d]efendants’ actions were
 
narrowly directed towards a single . . . goal," "involved but
 
one set of victims," and took place over a relatively short
 
period of time).
 
 
Because the appropriate "commonsensical, fact-specific"
 
examination of the allegations in USAPA’s complaint fails to
 
yield a pattern of racketeering activity, USAPA has failed to
 
state a cognizable RICO claim. See Menasco, 886 F.2d at 684.
 
 
Accordingly, the district court did not err in granting the
 
defendants’ motion to dismiss the complaint

 

[CactusPilot1]

Rob Streble, USAPA Treasurer claims his daughter opened the USAPA mail and found it. Was it bring your tween daughter to work day? Crap case and lost twice. Total BS.
 
The appeals court noted:
 
 
It is no surprise, then, that the conduct USAPA alleges
 
closely resembles conduct we have found not to demonstrate
 
continuity after H.J. Inc. See, e.g., GE Inv. Partners, 247 F.3d
 
 
at 549 (finding no continuity where the defendants "single
 
goal" was to fraudulently inflate the value of and then sell
 
their controlling interest in a company); Menasco, 886 F.2d at
 
 
684 (finding no continuity where "[d]efendants actions were
 
narrowly directed towards a single . . . goal," "involved but
 
one set of victims," and took place over a relatively short
 
period of time).
 
 
Because the appropriate "commonsensical, fact-specific"
 
examination of the allegations in USAPAs complaint fails to
 
yield a pattern of racketeering activity, USAPA has failed to
 
state a cognizable RICO claim. See Menasco, 886 F.2d at 684.
 
 
Accordingly, the district court did not err in granting the
 
defendants motion to dismiss the complaint

Fraudulently inflate the value...sounds like the claim that Airways bought America West and moved their HQ to Tempe. They set up the Cactus 18, accused our pilots of ID theft which went nowhere. APA beware who you are dealing with and they are not to be trusted.

Criminal minds=Usapians

 

[EastUS1]

See you boys SOON!

 
So...What's the latest "T-minus" countdown clock for the coming apocalypse set for today?