2015 Pilot Discussion.

[Claxon]

http://youtu.be/6l9sBUUwmUA

 

[Claxon]

http://youtu.be/hKJL9uJOsRY


west pilots protecting the island program visionary project. Valid until 2018 or until IT issues cleared.

 

[EastCheats]

Catastrophic bi-polar event?

 

[Claxon]

Catastrophic bi-polar event?

There are very few comments attributable to poster. The rest are all products of west pilots. Enjoy!

 

[EastCheats]

There are very few comments attributable to poster. The rest are all products of west pilots. Enjoy!

 
I'm enjoying every minute. May I suggest a Phillips-head to tighten a few loose screws? 

 

[Claxon]

I'm enjoying every minute. May I suggest a Phillips-head to tighten a few loose screws?  [/quote

They are your videos. Have at it.

 

[EastCheats]

I'm enjoying every minute. May I suggest a Phillips-head to tighten a few loose screws?  [/quote

They are your videos. Have at it.

 
Baseball bat and a rental car? 
 
A ] for the quote function?

 

[CactusPilot1]

 
How are those pyrrhic retirement benefits after years of LOA 93 and that pension guarantee that had no guarantee. AWE....
 
I guess you will find out soon.

 
And find out how it is to stagnate while will make up for those stolen upgrades.

 

[snapthis]

 
So, If you keep telling yourself something over and over again...does that make it true?
 
You are right, EVERYONE WILL ABIDE BY THIS ARBITRATION.  I hope you will remember those words when it's delivered (because you didn't the last time).  BTW, "the West" simply wanted you to abide and honor your WORD.  We EXPECTED you to abide by the process & result that all parties agreed to.
 
Here's what VP Paul Jones had to say about USAPA:
 
[SIZE=12pt]“Actually, it is USAPA that is needlessly delaying the resolution of the seniority dispute and jeopardizing the enforceability of the agreement the parties are able to reach. …….The arbitrator’s decision was to be final and binding on both pilot groups and was to be accepted by the Company so long as certain conditions were met.  The Nicolau Award has resulted in four years of litigation including a trial in federal court and jury verdict fining USAPA’s proposal for a non-Nicolau list to constitute an unlawful breach of the union’s duty of fair representation….”[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]Paul D. Jones; Vice President – Legal Affairs and Chief Compliance Officer[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Exhibit 1 of  Declaration of Counsel; Case 13-15000, 02/20/2013[/SIZE]
 
Here's what the Ninth said about the AAA/AWA arbitration:
 
[SIZE=12pt]"We do not address the thorny question of the extent to which the Nicolau Award is binding on USAPA. We note, as the district court recognized, that USAPA is at least as free to abandon the Nicolau Award as was its predecessor, ALPA (translation: ALPA was NOT free to abandon the Nicolau Award). The dissent appears implicitly to assume that the Nicolau Award, the product of the internal rules and processes of ALPA, is binding on USAPA."[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals Opinion[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]Case: 09-16564 06/04/2010[/SIZE]
 

You are right, EVERYONE WILL ABIDE BY THIS ARBITRATION. Disclaimer: Only if the results meet the Usapian unethical standards of approval.
 
or
 
Until they find something wrong with the arbitrator(s).
 
I'm going to enjoy the show when they try to wiggle out of  the next arbitration after the hissy fit.
 

 

[A320 Driver]

When the 330-200's arrived, they were not covered by any arbitrated decision. The Company made ZERO attempt to have West pilots share any of this flying even though the TA required a bridge training program. Parker's East managers just ignored the fact that we were being wrongfully denied these seats."

Most if not all of the A 330s were already on order at the time of the merger as replacment aircraft for the 767s, the retirement of which was put off until February of this year. I am pretty sure the sharing of any flying was for new aircraft ordered after the merger such as the 3 757s and the E 190s.

 

[A320 Driver]

You are right, EVERYONE WILL ABIDE BY THIS ARBITRATION. Disclaimer: Only if the results meet the Usapian unethical standards of approval.
 
or
 
Until they find something wrong with the arbitrator(s).
 
I'm going to enjoy the show when they try to wiggle out of  the next arbitration after the hissy fit.

There will be no "wiggle out" of this arbitration. USAPA will be gone at the end of the arbitration and few will have the stomach for another long drawn out litigation, myself included.

 

[snapthis]

Most if not all of the A 330s were already on order at the time of the merger as replacment aircraft for the 767s, the retirement of which was put off until February of this year. I am pretty sure the sharing of any flying was for new aircraft ordered after the merger such as the 3 757s and the E 190s.

 I'm pretty sure any confusion you may have will be explained in the arbitration.

 

[snapthis]

There will be no "wiggle out" of this arbitration. USAPA will be gone at the end of the arbitration and few will have the stomach for another long drawn out litigation, myself included.

 
There lies the problem with USAPA LLC. No dues payments being collected, no other means of funding, funds already collected in dispute and likely frozen and battle fatigue.
 

 

[N924PS]

Most if not all of the A 330s were already on order at the time of the merger as replacment aircraft for the 767s, the retirement of which was put off until February of this year. I am pretty sure the sharing of any flying was for new aircraft ordered after the merger such as the 3 757s and the E 190s.

You are incorrect regarding the A330's.

The A330-200 orders came post merger in 2007 as part of a major fleet renewal order.

http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/pressreleases/press-release-detail/detail/us-airways-signs-on-with-airbus-for-fleet-renewal-airline-increases-order-for-a350-xwb-aircraft/

There were only 9 A330-300's pre-merger.

You are correct regarding the 3 former ATA B757's and the E190's. However thanks to USAPA, the West pilots were never allowed to participate.

These vacancies as well as a portion of the 15 additional A330-200's and A350's post merger should be shared with the West. It would not surprise me at all if the West Merger Committee can quote an exact number of vacancies they should fill.

 

[AWE Dog]

To bad the west never had a career expection to fly any wide body. Just another example of what they brought to the merger, 1 crew base, no attrition, and no wide bodies. They got what they brought to the merger and they don't Like it.