2015 Pilot Discussion.

[Metroyet]

Have we decided on a name for our new Totally self funded East LLC Yet? has it sunk in that usapa forfeited every single dime of its treasury and aside from the remaining money APA gave usapa, the East is broke. Unorganized, and under very tight time constraints?. FPL is ancient history too. Not much left to refund after the West takes 4.5 million out of the Easts share of the refund and then Confiscates their merger fund that the East pilots stole.

Better start that Bake sale. This gets extraordinarily expensive quickly.

 

[Claxon]

Have we decided on a name for our new Totally self funded East LLC Yet? has it sunk in that usapa forfeited every single dime of its treasury and aside from the remaining money APA gave usapa, the East is broke. Unorganized, and under very tight time constraints?. FPL is ancient history too. Not much left to refund after the West takes 4.5 million out of the Easts share of the refund and then Confiscates their merger fund that the East pilots stole.

Better start that Bake sale. This gets extraordinarily expensive quickly.

The only favorable 9th Circuit remedy for the west was the possible award for attorney fees.
 
marty may get his pay, but will the west pilots get reimbursed for their 675 tie purchases? No.  You were not paying for legal fees, you were paying for an expensive tie frankly.
 
Did the army of lyingitas stop asking for or accepting donations? No.
 
Should you clarify who gets refunds on the west and when if the west is awarded attorney fees? Yes.
 
Pro Bono advice. (satire)

 

[Metroyet]

The only favorable 9th Circuit remedy for the west was the possible award for attorney fees.
 
marty may get his pay, but will the west pilots get reimbursed for their 675 tie purchases? No.  You were not paying for legal fees, you were paying for an expensive tie frankly.
 
Did the army of lyingitas stop asking for or accepting donations? No.
 
Should you clarify who gets refunds on the west and when if the west is awarded attorney fees? Yes.
 
Pro Bono advice. (satire)

Way ahead of you Mike. Every doner will get EVERY penny they put into killing off your fake Union. You're just pissed that your frivolous lawsuit just died with the usapa committee. All of us doners appreciate all you East pilots for picking up the 4.5 million dollar tab.

 

[Claxon]

Way ahead of you Mike. Every doner will get EVERY penny they put into killing off your fake Union. You're just pissed that your frivolous lawsuit just died with the usapa committee. All of us doners appreciate all you East pilots for picking up the 4.5 million dollar tab.

Read your agreement you signed when you joined the aol donation list.

 

[CactusPilot1]

Don't confuse the USAPA clowns with facts.

Isn't that the truth. WNMECH can see they can't handle the truth. It throws them off their script.

 

[Metroyet]

Read your agreement you signed when you joined the aol donation list.

Way ahead of you Mike. Aside from taking your money, it's none of your business. It's going to the individual doners. They will be made whole. See, if Leonidas acted like east pilots they'd just steal the money for themselves...but the West has this thing called "integrity". It matters. Good night.

 

[Claxon]

Way ahead of you Mike. Aside from taking your money, it's none of your business. It's going to the individual doners. They will be made whole. See, if Leonidas acted ike east pilots they'd just steal the money for themselves...but the West has this thing called "integrity". It matters. Good night.

Good luck to "youses doners". 

 

[Metroyet]

I thought the East hated Chip Munn? Well, it seems that the APA loves him. He'll do well for your new committee.

 

[Metroyet]

Good luck to "youses doners".

Good luck actually GETTING donors. I bet 60% of easties won't donate a dime to this committee.

 

[EastUS1]

Good luck actually GETTING donors. I bet 60% of easties won't donate a dime to this committee.

 
Sigh!....Yes, yes indeed, What a fine fantasy to pin all your hopes on, and we mustn't forget; "You won't even get 200 cards!...Send the cards, I DARE you!" as well. You kids will never learn.

 

[EastUS1]

......What you SHOULD BE WORRIED about is your Dream Team assembly. 81 days left. Tic toc.

 
Why should that be any cause for sleepless nights in the east?...And thanks for the always dependable chuckles from yet another "T-minus" countdown clock to yet another always-and-forever-imminent apocalypse. 😉
 
"What you SHOULD BE WORRIED about" is how the 9th's issuance might well impact the timeline for your ever getting out of PHX....81 more days added already..."Tic toc." A little bit of "leeteegashun" served to keep east and west seperate for years. Unless it's your fullest fantasy that both the company and the APA are simply dying to combine the three branches; well, why should anyone (outside of PHX) really care how long this mess takes to resolve?  Your little 10% or so in PHX are the only ones stagnating/"dying on the vine" here. Just what incredibly enhanced efficiencies do you honestly imagine the company would gain from the eventually combined lists? Oh well, as always; it'll continue to be an interesting little show to see unfold.

 

[Claxon]

I thought the East hated Chip Munn? Well, it seems that the APA loves him. He'll do well for your new committee.. 

APA will not pick East Merger Committee members, they like USAPA are neutral now. 
 
Nice try on the FUD. 
 
Sir, would you like to discuss 9th foot note 12 and Arbitrators foot note 4?  You probably do not, you seem to enjoy time alone in private personal mental speculation, you may need glasses if you do that too much.

 

[Metroyet]

APA will not pick East Merger Committee members, they like USAPA are neutral now. 
 
Nice try on the FUD. 
 
Sir, would you like to discuss 9th foot note 12 and Arbitrators foot note 4?  You probably do not, you seem to enjoy time alone in private personal mental speculation, you may need glasses if you do that too much.

What I get out of the footnotes mike is that the Arbs are free to adjust the Nic to move the West way further up than George did. Everything is a two way street. The 9th didn't order the Nic but they gave the West the biggest hammer at exactly the right time. Plus. Silver has a great deal of latitude. That's going to be an interesting hearing when the FBA begs for mercy.

 

[EastUS1]

The 9th didn't order the Nic.....

 
Correct. They didn't, but let not that fact at all interfere with your joyous fantasies in any way.
 
"Everything is a two way street." Indeed, and one can only try to imagine the truly lasting delight any panel of arbitrators must needs feel from any court's attempted interference with their deliberations. Oh well; time will tell, as always.
 
In all fairness; I've no more an idea than all others present can reasonably have as to how all this will play out, but I'd scarcely profile any who make their living from arbitrations as being among the most unassumingly ego-free, humblest, and very easily swayed people...and I rather doubt they're largely the sorts who just love being told what to do by any outside agencies....Just sayin'...

 

[EastUS1]

What I get out of the footnotes mike is that the Arbs are free to adjust the Nic to move the West way further up than George did. .....

 
That fails to much surprise, given the now 10+ year history of the west seeing only just what "you'se" wish to see, but a curious question is birthed there: what would be their even possible motives for doing as you wish? They're equally free to discard the nic entirely, and have indeed said as much.
 
Being as unquestionably biased as I obviously am here; I still rather suspect that 8+ years after the initial dumping of this hot mess, and after seeing just how well it really played out, that any given panel of contemporary arbitrators' grand love of the "Nic Award" likely extends to little further than some slight gratitude for now 3 of them being properly employed at every pilot seniority arbitration since.