2015 Pilot Discussion.

[nevergiveup]

 
"Common Benefit Doctrine"....google it.  You might learn something.
 
Now ole uscaba is going to learn how come they owe the West $4 million ( a mere fraction of the $12 million uscaba spent) to pay for plaintiff's legal fees for the 7 years of litigation the West was forced to endure to teach a scab union a very simple labor law lesson.
 
I think all LCC pilots that uscaba represented have "benefited" from the legal system shining a bright light of justice on a union's DFR.

Remember, a lot of that 12 million came from your own pocket. Marty will get his money, but we do thank you for your support! 

 

[Phoenix]

 
Cactus18 to the USAPA defendants...."do you feel like we do?" 😉
 

 
Do they feel like the Cactus 18?  They aren't wearing a cutesy pin or a garish tie.  

 

[traderjake]

What's going to be funny is if Phoenix has to pay for one of those ties and doesn't even get to wear it. 

 

[nic4us]

Remember, a lot of that 12 million came from your own pocket. Marty will get his money, but we do thank you for your support! 

 
Yes, approximately $4 million of the $12 million uscaba spent came from the West.  Conrad's settlement will go a long way to fixing that issue. 
 
I do not know what you mean by "Marty will get his money".  I do not think you do either.  
 
You are welcome of course for the West's support, that is exactly why common benefit doctrine applies.
 
PS.  uscaba is gonna end up owing the West something in the $6.5-$9 million range.  Hope for their sake, the officers have been saving the cash in the treasury.

 

[EastUS1]

What's going to be funny is if Phoenix has to pay for one of those ties and doesn't even get to wear it. 

 
Wishing yet more mindless ill on your "fellows" I see. Sigh...Carry on "LT Hardy", and small wonder you've such tender feelings for the equally impaired, perpetual children found in the "army" of leo-whatever. One can only imagine the depth of true pride even your very own father must feel for you.
 
Umm...you do realize that actual Spartans immediately killed evidently impaired or even potentially worthless infants off at birth though...Right? The pitiful likes of you should forever be licking your father's very shoe soles for not applying such draconian perspectives. 😉

 

[EastUS1]

PS.  uscaba is gonna end up owing the West something in the $6.5-$9 million range.

 
Whatever happened to the previously-promised-by-your-brilliant "mind's" postings about literally (and I quote) "Billions in damages"? Good luck with all your latest fantasies as well kid.

 

[EastUS1]

 
Ever think that what might be holding Wilson and the APA back was the fact that they inherited a pilot group (east on LOA93) with the worst contract in the industry?
 
Had the east not been on such a dismal contract, perhaps we could have salvaged some of the far superior West work rules in the new JCBA.  

 
"Good" point son, especially since all the world's airlines have always only secretly dared even dreamt of one day advancing to the level of AWA compensation.....Right? Sigh....Seriously folks; is there a psychiatrist (or better yet a whole host) in the house here willing to put in a whole lot of pro bono work so's to at least attempt to save these incredibly delusional children from themselves?
 
BTW: PHX's overwhelmingly 98% in favor vote for the disatrous MOU alone forever stamped your little "army" as the previously almost unimaginable, and in any case literally-to-this-day unbelievable idiots "you'se" truly are. Nothing more than merely management's mindless little "love slaves" and "useful idiots",...And "you'se" will never be anything more than that. Just a bunch of would-be-or-even-previously-proven, actual scabs as with the Ansett case. Management laughs themselves to sleep at hopelessly clueless/invertebrate nitwits like "you'se"....Period.
 
"perhaps we could have salvaged some of the far superior West work rules in the new JCBA." Well, perhaps if "you'se" had not again voted overwhelmingly in favor of accepting the very first table scraps management deigned to even offer....but that's not really "spartan" style to ever do, so I guess we'll all never know what might well have been otherwise possible to achieve.
 
I'd say what I really think there, but given there are apparently "spartan soldiers" and other equally impressionable children in their formative years around...perhaps it's best to just sugarcoat things a bit.
 
P.S. Kid, per "far superior... work rules"? "You'se" have never seen anything of the "far superior" sort of work rules in your entirely ignorant lives, nor with your evidenced "innocence" will you ever.

 

[EastUS1]

EastUS1, on 07 Sept 2015 - 4:35 PM, said:
cactus"boy"53: "I could fly out-fly you with one eye tied behind my back,...I challenge you to ....oh wait..."
 
Eastus1: "oh wait"?

Brain..check..verified
Spine..check..verified
INTEGRITY.. double check!..double verified!!

 
Just curious here boy; some cactus got your tongue, or have you finally just tired of making such an obvious fool of "you'se" self? Let me guess here: "Spine..check..verified"..."INTEGRITY.. double check!..double verified!!".... "oh wait"?
 
"Brain..check..verified" I'll leave to the readers to determine and make "verified" as they see fit, or not. Matters of any laughably supposed "Spine..check..verified/INTEGRITY.. double check!..double verified!!" I'll leave the wager to determine.

 

[nevergiveup]

 
Yes, approximately $4 million of the $12 million uscaba spent came from the West.  Conrad's settlement will go a long way to fixing that issue. 
 
I do not know what you mean by "Marty will get his money".  I do not think you do either.  
 
You are welcome of course for the West's support, that is exactly why common benefit doctrine applies.
 
PS.  uscaba is gonna end up owing the West something in the $6.5-$9 million range.  Hope for their sake, the officers have been saving the cash in the treasury.

See if you can borrow on it!

 

[nic4us]

 
Whatever happened to the previously-promised-by-your-brilliant "mind's" postings about literally (and I quote) "Billions in damages"? Good luck with all your latest fantasies as well kid.

 
Since we have already established that the archives are no longer available, I guess I will just have to re-educate you.
 
I believe I said $1.6 billion in damages.  That would be the RICO treble award if the company was found in collusion with uscaba.  It was a huge hammer the West held.  That is why the company never even tried to negotiate with uscaba.....um...EVER.  You were inconsequential, and locked contractually to LOA93.  Now gee...I wonder why the company has also sided with the West's point of view on every step to date of the SLI?
 
Now we have a much more lucrative contract, brought to us not by uscaba, (who was pointedly told, either go along or get out), but by the APA, prior to their even being our union. Unfortunately, many of the superior West contract provisions were tossed...but thankfully, so was the scab union and your crappy LOA93.
 
Now, if you would like to compare W2s for the last decade...(I already called out another east poster who declined for obvious reasons) we can all laugh at how silly you look trying to dis the West's pay and work rules, when for an entire DECADE the West made more than you while having to work less to get it!

 

[nic4us]

See if you can borrow on it!

 
See if you can file bankruptcy with a $200,000+  income!

 

[EastUS1]

I believe I said $1.6 billion in damages. 
 
Now, if you would like to compare W2s for the last decade...

 
1) Bzzzt! Wrong. Thanks for playing though, and lying's typical of your sort anyway.  "Billions in damages" is a direct quote from you. Next contestant please.
 
2) I could always use a good laugh, so let's us do compare income streams during any given decade.
 
3. "(I already called out another east poster who declined for obvious reasons)" As have I all "you'se" pathetic "spartans"....but strangely; it would seem that none of you flitting hands little lawyer worshipers actually do in fact even honestly imagine yourselves to actually be "pilots".  Be the very first on your block to prove me wrong....?
 
"I already called out another east poster"....Umm hmm..."called out" indeed. Seriously; just which twisted little corner of Fantasyland do your sorry sorts of "spartan"...umm "soldiers" escape reasonable park security so's to continue to somehow "live" in? "who declined for obvious reasons"? The only "obvious reasons" you pathetic little twits would have for declining even so much as a flying wager would logically have to be the fact you know you would be proven jokes should you accept it. What other excuse(s) could any even supposed "man" or pretended "pilot" have?
 
nic4us: "I guess I will just have to re-educate you." Well, before attempting any feeble attempts at reforming me in your sorry image; "you'se" could at least "re-educate" me through proving how truly foolish I've been to ever dare challenge AWAsome..umm..."pilots" like your sorry self to actually FLY...and thanks for entering your very self as the thus far frontrunner for the Joke of the Day. Cactusboy usually locks that up early, so this is a bit refreshing. 😉
 
P.S. The suggested entry-level wager has always been set at a mere $5,000, but I'd hardly wish to offend a mighty "spartan" of such considerable means as yourself ("Now, if you would like to compare W2s for the last decade") so shall we say at least $10,000 for starters in your case?

 

[EastUS1]

 
 we can all laugh at how silly you look trying to dis the West's pay and work rules, when for an entire DECADE the West made more than you while having to work less to get it!

 
P.S. "we can all laugh at how silly you look trying to dis the West's pay and work rules" Seriously kid? Is it even possible that "you'se" are that truly ignorant of both history and even the aviation community as whole?
 
Per: "the West made more than you while having to work less to get it!" Is that some newly codified notion of both "INTEGRITY" and west "work ethic" to boot? Just curious there son, since gaining the most from the least possible personal effort does indeed seem to be a central focus and keystone element of "spartan"...umm..."philosophy".
 
It's not nearly midnight in any part of the CONUS at present, so, should you feel any additonal need; there's still plenty of time to further offer more material to lock yourself in as the Joke of the day.
 
Thanks for the standard-issue "spartan" laughs. No worries, and don't take "you'se" self so seriously son. There's no point in ever doing so, and there's never any warranty in life that anyone else/the rest of us will anyway. 😉

 

[EastUS1]

 
See if you can file bankruptcy with a $200,000+  income!

 
Whew!  Can you even be the least bit serious about a whopping 200K income being any barrier to BK filings?....Seriously? Wow!....You've already fully demonstrated yourself as naught more than essentially an "innocent" little child, but is your "knowledge" of financial and legal machinations truly THAT limited? "You'se" really should actually attend a university some day or at least "get out more"....Just sayin'....
 
http://money.howstuffworks.com/personal-finance/budgeting/10-bankrupt-athletes.htm

 

[Claxon]

 
Yes, approximately $4 million of the $12 million uscaba spent came from the West.  Conrad's settlement will go a long way to fixing that issue. 
 
I do not know what you mean by "Marty will get his money".  I do not think you do either.  
 
You are welcome of course for the West's support, that is exactly why common benefit doctrine applies.
 
PS.  uscaba is gonna end up owing the West something in the $6.5-$9 million range.  Hope for their sake, the officers have been saving the cash in the treasury.

You are mis informed, hence you mis inform.
 
The appeals court ordered money will come out of the USAPA treasury irrespective of west or East, after marty runs the bill up.  The only loss to East pilots will be a 1000 dollar refund, it pales in comparison to marios 7 "tousands per month" loss.