2015 Pilot Discussion.

[Black Swan]

You need to relax as well. You'll get your answer via Motion for Permanent Injunction for 9/23/2015 at 2:00 PM, in Courtroom 604, 401 W. Washington St, Phoenix, Arizona, before Senior Judge Roslyn O. Silver

Either way, East pilots win. You never should have filed this one.

 

[snapthis]

Good luck.
 
At the same time, our injunction has the benefit of alleviating the West Pilots’ hardship of fighting on two fronts and ensuring that the East Pilots cannot exploit the benefits of USAPA’s breach any longer

 

[snapthis]

Stick this under your pillow, BS. Doc 317
 
Case 2:13-cv-00471-ROS Document 317
 
The Court of Appeals noted further that “injunctive relief is necessary and
appropriate in this case to prevent the East Pilots from continuing to enjoy the
benefits of USAPA’s breach at the expense of the West Pilots.” (Emphasis added).
 
 
 
There should be no question that the APA Merger Committee is the direct
successor to the USAPA merger committee – no less than USAPA was the successor to
ALPA back in 2008 and no less than APA is the successor to USAPA today. As the
direct successor to USAPA, APA and its committees are just as bound by the Ninth
Circuit ruling (and the pending injunction from this Court) as USAPA and its
committees.
 
By this motion, the West Pilots ask the Court to enter a permanent injunction
consistent with the Ninth Circuit’s mandate. The most efficient way to do so is for the
Court to join APA, which succeeded USAPA as the exclusive bargaining representative
of all of the American Airlines pilots, including legacy U.S. Airways pilots, on
September 16, 2014, as USAPA’s successor, pursuant to Rule 25(c). This will allow the
Court to direct its injunction to both USAPA and APA with respect to participation
and/or support, directly or indirectly, of legacy U.S. Airways East pilots in the SLI
proceedings.
 
 
 
 

 

[Claxon]

Stick this under your pillow, BS. Doc 317
 
Case 2:13-cv-00471-ROS Document 317
 
The Court of Appeals noted further that “injunctive relief is necessary and
appropriate in this case to prevent the East Pilots from continuing to enjoy the
benefits of USAPA’s breach at the expense of the West Pilots.” (Emphasis added).
 
 
 
There should be no question that the APA Merger Committee is the direct
successor to the USAPA merger committee – no less than USAPA was the successor to
ALPA back in 2008 and no less than APA is the successor to USAPA today. As the
direct successor to USAPA, APA and its committees are just as bound by the Ninth
Circuit ruling (and the pending injunction from this Court) as USAPA and its
committees.
 
By this motion, the West Pilots ask the Court to enter a permanent injunction
consistent with the Ninth Circuit’s mandate. The most efficient way to do so is for the
Court to join APA, which succeeded USAPA as the exclusive bargaining representative
of all of the American Airlines pilots, including legacy U.S. Airways pilots, on
September 16, 2014, as USAPA’s successor, pursuant to Rule 25(c). This will allow the
Court to direct its injunction to both USAPA and APA with respect to participation
and/or support, directly or indirectly, of legacy U.S. Airways East pilots in the SLI
proceedings.
 
 
 
 

Posting your own army of lyingitas martys, west pilot legal clerks briefs again. 
 
Sir, can you find anything in the recent legal briefs, from the APA and Company in response to the district courts request, that would be helpful to your typical cherry picking cause?  I dare say no.

 

[snapthis]

I get it, it's only OK for you to post briefs, Claxon.

 

[Claxon]

Posting your own army of lyingitas martys, west pilot legal clerks briefs again. 
 
Sir, can you find anything in the recent legal briefs, from the APA and Company in response to the district courts request, that would be helpful to your typical cherry picking cause?  I dare say no.

Read again and respond invasive, evasive species, spinthis.

 

[EastCheats]

And JUST when I thought I'd heard it all....

"East Pilot Seniority Protection Group LLC" name reserve filed by Linda Donewald, wife of West Pilot Michael Donewald.

This is what this profession has come down to.

And the battle continues.....

https://www.secretary.state.nc.us/Forms/Download/NameReservation_C201525700754_36ad8cd5c5874c61956f0c38ee945dfd

 
I hear there are ties for sale 😉

 

[cactusboy53]

Either way, East pilots win. You never should have filed this one.

WINNING! Whatever Charlie. Sorry to mix metaphors, but keep clicking those heels!!

 

[snapthis]

WINNING! Whatever Charlie. Sorry to mix metaphors, but keep clicking those heels!!

 
BS relies only on hope. Obviously, hasn't been in court or read transcripts. There will be a resolution and the 9th has given the court direction.
 
 
THE COURT (Judge Silver): Essentially, from the -- from the last
 
time you were here and what you gave me in writing, your client
 
has taken a position, and so has American, of neutrality,
 
essentially, on this issue, and stepped back and said: Get
 
this resolved. These are -- there are legal issues. You --
 
you raise some. Both the parties raise some and you raised a
 
unique one about --
 
MR. SIEGEL: Right.
 
THE COURT: -- McCaskill-Bond.

 

[snapthis]

Read again and respond invasive, evasive species, spinthis.

 
Was Seigel being evasive to the court on neutrality? It's there in the transcripts.
 

 

[end_of_alpa]

If she grants you your injunction, you lose. If she doesn't, you lose.
If she gives you the injunction as you ask, she usurps the Ninth. That opens the APA up to having to defend the rights of East pilots. That opens her up for appeal. Appeal means delay. Delay means more legal work by Harper. This one is on your dime.

Like I said in a previous post......"Goodbye Yellow Brick Road".

No matter which way this goes, it's going to get ugly. (Not that it hasn't up until now)

Lawsuits will continue to fly.

On a slightly different discussion, anyone watch Scott Walkers latest piece against unions?

https://www2.scottwalker.com/digital/files/policy/Power-To-The-People.pdf

I don't think he'll get in but if Trump does expect the same platform.

 

[end_of_alpa]

Stick this under your pillow, BS. Doc 317
 
Case 2:13-cv-00471-ROS Document 317
 
The Court of Appeals noted further that “injunctive relief is necessary and
appropriate in this case to prevent the East Pilots from continuing to enjoy the
benefits of USAPA’s breach at the expense of the West Pilots.” (Emphasis added).
 
 
 
There should be no question that the APA Merger Committee is the direct
successor to the USAPA merger committee – no less than USAPA was the successor to
ALPA back in 2008 and no less than APA is the successor to USAPA today. As the
direct successor to USAPA, APA and its committees are just as bound by the Ninth
Circuit ruling (and the pending injunction from this Court) as USAPA and its
committees.
 
By this motion, the West Pilots ask the Court to enter a permanent injunction
consistent with the Ninth Circuit’s mandate. The most efficient way to do so is for the
Court to join APA, which succeeded USAPA as the exclusive bargaining representative
of all of the American Airlines pilots, including legacy U.S. Airways pilots, on
September 16, 2014, as USAPA’s successor, pursuant to Rule 25(c). This will allow the
Court to direct its injunction to both USAPA and APA with respect to participation
and/or support, directly or indirectly, of legacy U.S. Airways East pilots in the SLI
proceedings.

The Judges order granted the Company leave to join and they are on the side of APA and USAPA this time.
However, I REALLY HOPE SILVER GRANTS YOU YOUR MOTION. It will serve as a new basis to put the stop on the SLI and will cause new waves of litigation going forward. Money....got to love it!

 

[luvthe9]

The Judges order granted the Company leave to join and they are on the side of APA and USAPA this time.
However, I REALLY HOPE SILVER GRANTS YOU YOUR MOTION. It will serve as a new basis to put the stop on the SLI and will cause new waves of litigation going forward. Money....got to love it!

Bingo.............this is going to be fun to watch

 

[A320 Driver]

I see USAPA is selling off the office furniture. I suppose there will be one less entity for the West to sue shortly.

 

[luvthe9]

WINNING! Whatever Charlie. Sorry to mix metaphors, but keep clicking those heels!!

Clueless flounder...........big smiles and a big big mistake at WYE!!