AA's operational performance already suffering?

[BigMac]

So did you go to DFW Tynk.?

 

[dfw gen]

Me thinks tynker would be the scab in first class seat 1a

 

[TWU informer]

So, you're saying this is a union sanctioned restriction of output?....

What he is trying to say is that he has no idea what is going on out there and that he is an idiot that has no idea to keep all references that he has made in his post to himself because he has to be the person in the conversation that knows everything. He hasn't a clue what he can cause by his Ignorant Arrogance on the net or by running his mouth around the wrong people at work in reference to things he knows nothing about.

If you can not read between the lines Informer by all means print this thread/post and have someone you know explain it to you. For being so smart about everything Union you sure can show your Stupidity! sometimes. Try something new and know when to shutup.

I was told on very good authority that DFW has unlimited OT and is under manned to deal with everything going on so Tulsa isn't stepping on anyones OT. If there are yes voters among the field trip AMTs they are doing exactly what they voted to do anyway, to work and make a paycheck and it's their right to do that as per our agreement anyway. The big question is, How many of the AMTs are No voters also wanting to work and make a paycheck

I said that I have no idea what is causing the extra work load. The Chronic Complainer wants to jump in speak for me like the fool that he is.

I was told the number of out of service aircraft was down below 10 by mid-day, but management panic sent a group from Tulsa to save the day.

My point is, that we are working overtime here, we are preparing to watch thousands of headcount reductions, and we should not be involved in what is obviously someone else's battle.

I don't think Tynker would be a scab, I think he would not cross a picket line, but spend day and night generating chronic complaints about leaders or potential leaders, while failing to demonstrate his own worth by stepping up and showing us all how it is done. In school days, we called this type "Pussies".

 

[john john]

Nope, it's pretty clear there's a group of employees with a "burn the place down" type attitude who have decided that it's time to take hostages in their battle.

Go ahead and blame management for whatever they've done to you, but the moment you start using customers as leverage, you lose all sympathy from me.

Worse, you've lost my business.

I booked a trip late last week in business class to Europe. I'm now rebooked on LH instead.

Why? If you can't be bothered to be professionals, you don't need my business.

So please, do a little victory dance if you want. But to be clear, it's not a victory. AA can't afford to be losing a single customer right now. UA's operation seems to be back under control.

Trust me, it's no loss to me -- I'll still get where I need to be, and I'll still earn miles. Just not with AA.

Same thing for other customers. You'll piss a few off who didn't know any better, but I'm not the only one re-evaluating whether to rebook AA or not.

When the schedule gets cut back, the only ones you're punishing are your co-workers. It's not a loss to management -- their paychecks don't shrink as the airline shrinks, and you can't punish their stock options.

Maybe one of you can explain what is it you're hoping to accomplish by devaluing the brand. Are you hoping that management will simply give up, and hand the keys to Doug Parker?

If that's the plan, God help all of you, because you're gonna need it.

Sounds like you were on a cancel AA flight. Your rant is typical. Front line employees hear your line all the time in good and bad times at all airlines. Consumers have short memories

 

[john john]

eolesen:



I don't doubt that you have considerable experience in airline management, b

5 years

 

[BigMac]

And so now a MD-80 full of Tulsa AMT's head to DFW to save the day?

The TWU Local 514 leadership had not the guts to take a stand and fight our own fight, and now they sit on their hands while their membership goes to fight someone else's apparent battle with the company.

I have no idea what is happening with the Out of Service Aircraft, but the Tulsa based AMT's voted 75% yes to not fight, so they need to stay at home and not go make extra pay while fighting the fight that another work group is fighting.

This is not your fight Local 514, tell your members to stay at home and live with the results of the yes vote you advocated and wanted so badly.

To go an profit with overtime from another union man's battle, is not much different than a SCAB, crossing an official picket line of another union group.

Let me get this right. We had guys from DFW drive up on their own time to help us hold signs... so we fly down there on a chartered 80 (provided by the compAAny) for OT. Says a lot about Tule. Sad

 

[AC Tynker]

So did you go to DFW Tynk.?

No I didn't.

 

[AC Tynker]

I said that I have no idea what is causing the extra work load. The Chronic Complainer wants to jump in speak for me like the fool that he is.

I was told the number of out of service aircraft was down below 10 by mid-day, but management panic sent a group from Tulsa to save the day.

My point is, that we are working overtime here, we are preparing to watch thousands of headcount reductions, and we should not be involved in what is obviously someone else's battle.

I don't think Tynker would be a scab, I think he would not cross a picket line, but spend day and night generating chronic complaints about leaders or potential leaders, while failing to demonstrate his own worth by stepping up and showing us all how it is done. In school days, we called this type "Pussies".

It doesn't matter what you knew or didn't know or what you typed or didn't type. Bottom line is you need to think about what you are doing and quit being an egotistical idiot without a clue and leave the subject alone completely because out of your Ignorant Arrogance could spawn negative repercussion toward others. If you don't want to listen to me read this from one of your own.

This is a subject that should NOT be discussed on a open Forum. No matter what, it only plays into the hands of AA. We all know that AA as well as others read this to find out anything they can. I hope that this discussion stops before things get typed and posted that may be harm to any UNION member.

Remember AA management is also reading this.

I believe I have brought the working OT while people being out on layoff up before somewhere on here and it didn't seem important if I remember right. Your Simpleton analogies and pathetic names mean nothing coming from you, you can't even display or most likely in your own words define the qualities of what a true leader is.

Here is some more advice from one of you own since you have no clue simpleton:

Any actions by any employee that causes any financial harm to AA that is posted here can be used by AA.

So I again request that this discussion stop. Its NOT A Subject to be talked about on a open forum..

 

[TWU informer]

It doesn't matter what you knew or didn't know or what you typed or didn't type. Bottom line is you need to think about what you are doing and quit being an egotistical idiot without a clue and leave the subject alone completely because out of your Ignorant Arrogance could spawn negative repercussion toward others. If you don't want to listen to me read this from one of your own.



I believe I have brought the working OT while people being out on layoff up before somewhere on here and it didn't seem important if I remember right. Your Simpleton analogies and pathetic names mean nothing coming from you, you can't even display or most likely in your own words define the qualities of what a true leader is.

Here is some more advice from one of you own since you have no clue simpleton:

So you only want to lead if you can do it from your computer keyboard and hiding behind an alias?

If it doesn't matter what I know or type, then why are you consumed daily by my postings here? You are fear mongering about my post and trying to do what "legally advise me"? What are your qualifications for that?

You the Chronic Complainer without the guts to identify yourself, lead, or even take a stand on the representation issue. Like I said, the word we used was "Pussies". You sit and throw stones because my identity is known to you. And you want be my moral and legal compass? From behind the alias? Really, Like Earnest T Bass throwing stones in Mayberry.

 

[Tater Salad]

I have no idea why but I'm wondering if management is perpetuating this OTS situation. We have had some dumb-ass decisions made by mgmt regarding OTS a/c lately, even more retarded than usual.
Example: we had a 767 sit on the gate all morning while they try to figure out whether to send it to the hgr. They finally send it to the hgr midday, and the spare a/c at the hgr is slated to replace it. Hgr supervisor looks at replacement a/c logbook and sees 3 avionics items that were never addressed. Supervisor yells at hgr crew chief and asks why nobody is working it. CC says that a/c wasn't even on the turnover report from previous shift. Chaos ensues, replacement #2 goes ots, Trp cancelled.
Example: 12 a/c OTS at the hangar. Day off overtime list exhausted. Previous shift held over many mechs. Still many OTS a/c and more coming. Mid-shift mamager is asked if he is calling any mechs in early to help with the mess. Reply: "Oh, yeah that might be a good idea, do you think anyone would take it? It's getting late"

I could state more examples of stupidity the last few days. Makes me wonder if they are trying to make it worse or somehow draw more attention to whats happening.

 

[eolesen]

Sounds like you were on a cancel AA flight. Your rant is typical. Front line employees hear your line all the time in good and bad times at all airlines. Consumers have short memories

Nope, my flights weren't canceled. Except by me, that is.

I'm also not your typical customer. I'm close to a million miles on AA, most of which are from the past 6 years. I worked there for 17 years (14 in management).

If people like me with ties and history with the airline willing to walk across the street to United, there's a problem.

And to be clear, it's not the management I'm walking away from -- it's the employees.

When someone doesn't do the job, it's time to let them go.

5 years

Wrong, Skippy. Been doing this since 1986, with two years off thanks to Frank Lorenzo.

 

[1AA]

Nope, my flights weren't canceled. Except by me, that is.

I'm also not your typical customer. I'm close to a million miles on AA, most of which are from the past 6 years. I worked there for 17 years (14 in management).

If people like me with ties and history with the airline willing to walk across the street to United, there's a problem.

And to be clear, it's not the management I'm walking away from -- it's the employees.

When someone doesn't do the job, it's time to let them go.



Wrong, Skippy. Been doing this since 1986, with two years off thanks to Frank Lorenzo.

Sorry to hear you were Lorenzo-ized.

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

It doesn't matter what you knew or didn't know or what you typed or didn't type. Bottom line is you need to think about what you are doing and quit being an egotistical idiot without a clue and leave the subject alone completely because out of your Ignorant Arrogance could spawn negative repercussion toward others. If you don't want to listen to me read this from one of your own.



I believe I have brought the working OT while people being out on layoff up before somewhere on here and it didn't seem important if I remember right. Your Simpleton analogies and pathetic names mean nothing coming from you, you can't even display or most likely in your own words define the qualities of what a true leader is.

Here is some more advice from one of you own since you have no clue simpleton:

AC Tynker

Thanks for quoting me and both of those were in ref. to us talking about what the pilots are doing or not doing. We have enough going on in our own house. (union)

The numbers that are being quoted about how many are going to laid off, we'll all have to wait and see. My take on the O/T issue is this. AA has plans to cut as much work from our scope as possible. Contract it out, etc..etc.. the notices have not hit the floor as of yet. Fighting back by not working the ot now is WAY to late. We should of done that a yr ago. But remember one of my other statements the I GOT MINE ATTITUDE of most at AA. Most will work O/T even on the day when half of thier crew is being escorted out. With the acception of (JFK)..A REAL UNION STATION..

Working OT at this point is a choice you will have to make on your own. How others look at you and comment is thier choice. Every one has that right. But since AA sets the rules we must follow to accomplish each task, MM, GPM, MCM, you should follow those to the T. Do the job your paid to do. At this point since AA has done away with most and soon all the things that have made it some what easier to come to work. No Favors, You don't have to go the extra mile as they say.

 

[johnny kat]

eolesen, judging from your comments you sure enjoy firing people. You and Mitt have a lot in common.

 

[john john]

Wrong, Skippy. Been doing this since 1986, with two years off thanks to Frank Lorenzo.

6 years at ?