apparently these 757's will be reffered to as heavies. due to the mtow. they were built that way specifically for "amtran" if i am not mistaken. amtran always uses the heavy call sign on their 757-200's and 300's. as in " amtran 123 heavy"
O & D pays the bills, feed rounds out the revenue. Look at DAL, great connecting traffic in CVG and ATL, but they went too far in filling aircraft with connectors. What you are seeing is a rationalization of hubs that rely too much on connections.
I was wondering if this DOT application was mainly to be used for code sharing with Star carriers. :blink: It would be great if it was US metal.![]()
So they are going to fly 757's with 8 F to Europe?
Not a choice for me, I'm afraid.
The former ATA birds are Rolls-Royce powered, definitely, just like US and HP birds are, too.So they are going to fly 757's with 8 F to Europe?
Not a choice for me, I'm afraid.
On another note, if memory serves, aren't ATA 757's PW powered or am I mistaken?
Either way we need more larger airplanes. It would have been nice to see them pick up some 767's cheap.
Why are they po'd over upgrades? I though they wereWhile I am a fan of a larger f/c cabin, even if they only had 8 seats up in f/c or Business as it will be called what does it matter? You only occupy one seat. As long as you get great service and a comfy ride it shouldn't matter if the a/c has two aisles or one. I can see why some would be po'd for the lack of upgrading. Upgrading on int'l is harder than on domestic anyway isn't it?
Why are they po'd over upgrades? I though they were
"complimenary upgrades". I must be misinformed. If they want a confirmed first class seat, they can use miles to upgrade or gracious me ....buy it.
I hear you and I hope you have emailed Doug on this. Our VFF are very important to this airline and we do appreciate it. I guess because I work in REZ and I hear so many complaints about the lack of upgrades. Its the elite who buys the lowest fare avail and than ******s they didnt get the upgrade and swear to fly WN in the future. Newsflash, they dont have a first class cabin and no matter how bad it is its still better than coach. I know bonus miles have gone down but they are given as an incentive to get the upgrade when it is most important. As you know most of these decisions are revenue driven but I hope they dont drive off the revenue! If I have offended you let me apologize as I somtimes need to vent. Regards.I agree with the purchase of a FC seat. That's why I buy the high fare tickets--I don't want to sweat out the upgrade on certain flights.
Oh, and right now, we're PO'd about the upgrade policy, no rollover, the diminished FC product, diminished award availability.....hmmmmm, what else......
My point earlier was that if they are going to sell that crappy FC seat for an Envoy seat TA, that is terrible. If the seats are the same as domestic FC, they should be for complimentary upgrades for US1's and full Y-fares and not sold as J fares.
Hey Art, TZ (ATA) has RR powered 757's just like US/HP.So they are going to fly 757's with 8 F to Europe?
Not a choice for me, I'm afraid.
On another note, if memory serves, aren't ATA 757's PW powered or am I mistaken?
Either way we need more larger airplanes. It would have been nice to see them pick up some 767's cheap.
From what I understand, all 757s are supposed to be referred to as heavies, due to their propensity to create wake turbulence far beyond their size. Something to do with the wing design, I gather.apparently these 757's will be reffered to as heavies.
true. but no other airline that i know of in the united states uses the heavy call sign for the 757-200 except for ATA. unless someone knows of another. i do not know if continental or northwest use the heavy call sign for the 757-300'sFrom what I understand, all 757s are supposed to be referred to as heavies, due to their propensity to create wake turbulence far beyond their size. Something to do with the wing design, I gather.
Why are they po'd over upgrades? I though they were
"complimenary upgrades". I must be misinformed. If they want a confirmed first class seat, they can use miles to upgrade or gracious me ....buy it.
Anyone who pays full freight for the current Envoy product has more money than brains.
ahhh. i doubt that. but i have been wrong before.ATC makes all 757s use the heavy call sign as they generate a bigger wake turbulence.
I do not know if continental or northwest use the heavy call sign for the 757-300's