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So you have discontent for the man, without regard to his ability to do the job. That's called putting your grudge before professionalism. He is responsilble for the current regime being in place.

I'm going to use this graphic to address the new catch phrase "Grudge"...
I keep seeing it used over and over by certain posters...




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It's amazing that anyone that refuses to support Tim... "holds a grudge"... or is "misinformed"!

P.S I Don't hold a Grudge against Tim... I just don't believe his Bull S***!
 
Tim, I don't have all the information but as I heard it, the teamsters left a drop dead timeline in their contract that allowed carte blanche outsourcing of the workers. Was a quick transition a bad choice knowing the company had the intention of outsourcing?
By the way, did you see my previous questions?
The Teamster contract is terrible and left the Continental rampers with no protections. They still have no protections so Im not sure what you are talking about. Going into transitions didn't and hasn't protected any of that. Unfortunately, the only thing that walking into transition talks did was reduce the leverage for the IAM members, including the Continental rampers. The IAM had something that the company needed, i.e., transition talks. Delaney had the leverage where he could have signed a LOA to extend the protections for Continental rampers and could have got considerations for the UA ramp also. Giving management exactly what it wanted made no sense at all, especially when the AFA received $40 million and the IBT received $59 millon for the exact same item. So now, all members at UA are stuck in a transition negotiations which has come to a standstill and will most likely last 3-5 additional years unless Delaney learns how to build leverage and learns how to stop giving it away.

Onward!
 
Once again the master of deflection didnt answer the things I poised to him.

So he thinks its ok to waste the District's money and afford no scope protection to CO's rampers.
The only money wasted was $2.5 million for mirage negotiations over 3 years only to scrap the talks and redo new surveys. Going into transition talks didn't afford scope protections for CO rampers. What it did do was throw the UA and CO rampers under the bus to support management. And, Continental rampers have a contract that extends to 2013 and will be getting additional pay raises this July. Our United rampers haven't had a pay raise forever and it was morally wrong for our Leadership to give up leverage and 3 years of contract talks without getting ANYTHING for our members. It's actually insulting and retarded, especially with dues even going up again. AFA received $40 million. IBT received $59 million. Our members received: $0 for the exact same thing. Again, how did going into transition talks change the scope protections for CO? Please let us all know 700 if transition talks and lost leverage has produced the magic scope that you claim will "Fix" the continental ramp.

Since we represented the continental rampers, we could have used our leverage to sign a LOA to extend protections or used bridge langauge tying them in. And getting considerations for our United members. Win Win. Who would have been against that?

Now, with reduced leverage, transition talks may go on for years. Lose Lose.

Onward!
 
Mr. Nelson, What was the grievance that the LOA was accepted in order to give the grievance up? You say "lockout" and I am not understanding fully. Can you be more specific please?
There was a grievance filed and Delaney told everyone in the messenger that he would press it fastrack in arbitrations. "Lockout" is a term I use when all of our BUF members went in to work and were told to go back home because a vender was now doing their job. Most folks call that a lockout. It was complete with security meeting them and handing them a garbage bag to clean out their lockers. Just wrong wrong wrong but our leadership agreed to support managements actions, according to the secret letter of agreement that is only found on our website, www.occupyiam141.com.

Onward!
 
However, this time (and we promise this will never happen again until next time) we rolled over like obedient dogs and now declared victory after a $500 pay-off for those who choose to move and some contribution to our slush fund, errrr.. the IAMAW pension. As we said, we are opposed to premature contracting, but will do little to prevent it from happening. By the way, when's the beer and brats party?

In Suds-a-Daily,
Car 54
Here is the Letter of Agreement

Onward!
 
Excuse my dumbness Dog Wonder, That answer blew right by me. Excuse me Mr Nelson, you are saying that the constitution does not say that he can't run for office when it says in black and white that he must fill the requirements of the district bylaws.
You said you got nominations at the US hubs like CLT. Did you tell them you did not have a full ticket and that some of the people they were nominating were people who could not actually run. I wouldn't like that. Why didn't you have him or them (you didn't say) run for a Trustee job that they could run for since they were unfamiliar with the IAM process? I don't like a fill in the blank campaign.
You have to understand that the biggest fear I have is that an overwhelming number of Continental people who don't know whats going on are herded over to the polls and end up having no US reps at all. What then? Lawyers or not.
Anyone can run for office by getting endorsements from Local Lodges. And that is exactly what happened in the nomination process. Again, nobody broke the constitution, and neither myself or the Locals were stupid. But constitutionally, they knew they wouldn't be able to finally be on the ballot due to them not being members for 2 years. And everyone knew they were Continental rampers. We put them on the ballot as a matter of principle and to allow the Continental rampers to endorse one of their own. We had a full ticket and we will also have a full ticket in June. What's your fuss?

Onward! www.occupyiam141.com
 
I'm going to use this graphic to address the new catch phrase "Grudge"...
I keep seeing it used over and over by certain posters...




View attachment 9415


It's amazing that anyone that refuses to support Tim... "holds a grudge"... or is "misinformed"!

P.S I Don't hold a Grudge against Tim... I just don't believe his Bull S***!
Roabily,

You never had a problem with me and, as you said, you even worked for me for free within the last 12 months. So, at what point did I become a Bull S***er who was always out for self gain? When I said I was going to run against Delaney??? What BS are you talking about?

Onward www.occupyiam141.com
 
When people say that we haven't negotiated a contract post bankruptcy they're not incorrect; only transition agreements to a contract have been negotiated.
I agree 100% but the IAM Grand Poobah disagrees
 
There was a grievance filed and Delaney told everyone in the messenger that he would press it fastrack in arbitrations. "Lockout" is a term I use when all of our BUF members went in to work and were told to go back home because a vender was now doing their job. Most folks call that a lockout. It was complete with security meeting them and handing them a garbage bag to clean out their lockers. Just wrong wrong wrong but our leadership agreed to support managements actions, according to the secret letter of agreement that is only found on our website, www.occupyiam141.com.

Onward!
I have spoken to former BUF employees and this is true.............a black garbage bag, twenty minutes and a security escort.
 
First off, the constitution doesn't say he can't run for AGC. Nobody violated the consitution by having him running for office, nor did the Locals who nominated him violate the constitution.

The occupy platform is very strong on diversity because we know inclusion means more of a grab at solidarity. Therefore, it made no sense not to have the continental rampers participating in the front end of the nomination procedure. Mitch Buckley is the EWR committeeperson at the second biggest UA hub and we wanted to make sure that that hub had an opportunity to support one of their own, and they gave him their nomination. Bruce Davis is from the largest UA Hub, IAH, and we wanted to make sure that IAH had an opportunity to support one of its own. Bruce ended up in a runoff. But, both of these candidates understood that they would have to hand off the baton once June starts, even though they each received enough nominations.

Therefore, it allows two spots on the Occupy 141 to become open for us to carefully choose two '2 year term' AGC's who are on other teams. Further, once the election is over, whoever ends up being the President has up to 8 open AGC spots that will need filled. Mitch Buckley and Bruce Davis will be my first two appointees and they will have to run for election in two years. We will have to incorporate more Continental rampers and more UA PCE with the additional AGC spots that were available because of the increased membership.

Onward!

Tim,

So, you have 2 AGC spots open and 8 more to be assigned later. It is guaranteed that 2 people not from your ticket will get AGC. I'm sure these 2 will not be in any hurry to support your supposed gimmick give back. Why don't you drop the B.S. and realize that you can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. Get real.
 
Tim,

So, you have 2 AGC spots open and 8 more to be assigned later. It is guaranteed that 2 people not from your ticket will get AGC. I'm sure these 2 will not be in any hurry to support your supposed gimmick give back. Why don't you drop the B.S. and realize that you can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. Get real.

Good point...

Not only were we being lead to believe that everyone on Tim's ticket was final... and the REAL candidate... we find out later this not the case. It is now known, and confirmed (After much prodding) that he can pick and choose at least two positions with whom he wishes AFTER the election! Further... he knew this from the beginning and was using it as yet another ambiguous gimmick!

Further, certainly these unnamed "secret" candidates have NOT publicly sworn to, or signed any honor system pledge to give-back a portion their salary!

Now... is this not a deceptive practice of politics? Everyone claims I am biased against Tim, and hold a grudge. As I have stated... over and over... I've seen Tim in action... and he will stop at nothing to get elected... it's just that simple! If you think this stuff is bad... wait until gets some real power!

And again... I'll say this... Tim you should be ashamed of yourself for these sleazy campaign practices... I feel bad for the good folks like Niblet that have been affiliated by proxy with this garbage.
 
Roabily,

You never had a problem with me and, as you said, you even worked for me for free within the last 12 months. So, at what point did I become a Bull S***er who was always out for self gain? When I said I was going to run against Delaney??? What BS are you talking about?

Onward www.occupyiam141.com

Tim... even your reply is Bull S***!

I worked on Customs Cases on my own time... how many jobs have you personally saved? How about Jester... how many Members has he personally returned to work because of his diligence, dedication, and knowledge?

You can give me estimates... is it more than 10... perhaps less than 20?
 
Tim,

So, you have 2 AGC spots open and 8 more to be assigned later. It is guaranteed that 2 people not from your ticket will get AGC. I'm sure these 2 will not be in any hurry to support your supposed gimmick give back. Why don't you drop the B.S. and realize that you can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. Get real.
Whoever the president becomes will have the ability to assign up to 8 new AGC's. I will be incredibly insistent that any of those who I appoint would have to fall in line by sacrificing back to the masses. Trust me, being an appointee myself at one time, if you don't fall in line, you get whacked. Therefore, the potential sacrifice is closer to $500,000 a year for the members. It's going to happen. Bottom line. And all the givebacks will be posted immediately with the first pay check. There is no alternative with all of our broke locals and dues increases, which I find as an abomination since NONE of our members, whether US AIRWAYS or United have gotten one single pay raise this year, even as other unions get things for their members. Something is very very wrong with that.

Onward!
 
Whoever the president becomes will have the ability to assign up to 8 new AGC's. I will be incredibly insistent that any of those who I appoint would have to fall in line by sacrificing back to the masses. Trust me, being an appointee myself at one time, if you don't fall in line, you get whacked. Therefore, the potential sacrifice is closer to $500,000 a year for the members. It's going to happen. Bottom line. And all the givebacks will be posted immediately with the first pay check. There is no alternative with all of our broke locals and dues increases, which I find as an abomination since NONE of our members, whether US AIRWAYS or United have gotten one single pay raise this year, even as other unions get things for their members. Something is very very wrong with that.

Onward!

Tim,

2 people from the other tickets are guaranteed to be elected because you don't have a full slate and they don't have to give back and they can't be removed because they would be elected. What kind of fantasy B.S. are you dreaming of now. Get real.
 
Good point...

Not only were we being lead to believe that everyone on Tim's ticket was final... and the REAL candidate... we find out later this not the case. It is now known, and confirmed (After much prodding) that he can pick and choose at least two positions with whom he wishes AFTER the election! Further... he knew this from the beginning and was using it as yet another ambiguous gimmick!

Further, certainly these unnamed "secret" candidates have NOT publicly sworn to, or signed any honor system pledge to give-back a portion their salary!

Now... is this not a deceptive practice of politics? Everyone claims I am biased against Tim, and hold a grudge. As I have stated... over and over... I've seen Tim in action... and he will stop at nothing to get elected... it's just that simple! If you think this stuff is bad... wait until gets some real power!

And again... I'll say this... Tim you should be ashamed of yourself for these sleazy campaign practices... I feel bad for the good folks like Niblet that have been affiliated by proxy with this garbage.
Roabily,

nothing sleezy, everything has been and continues to be straight up as you know. There are no secret candidates as all candidates will appear on the ballot in June. Again, you are incredibly presumptuous about the give backs and you have presumed wrong. Givebacks will happen for sure. Instead of busting my balls about something that you can not verify, how about just saying that you don't believe my team will sacrifice but if we do then that is a worthy and honorable thing? And, since you worked for me within the last 12 months, for free, please tell all of us exactly at what point within the last 12 months did you go from working for me for free, to publically saying I'm basically a fraud? If you said that you worked 'for free' then maybe that is where your anger comes in at, did you contact Atkinson to get paid? Again, who works for someone 'for free' but thinks they are a fraud? Doesn't make sense

Onward!
 

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