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I wouldn't expect 700 to get it. I do expect dawg to.
sadly, dawg is as stuck in yesteryear regarding the way the MRO business is run as he is about what DL did to reorganize in the past at the cost of its employees.
DL didn't accept that oil companies could screw airlines around because airlines bought fuel and were held hostage to the oil companies and refiners so DL bought a refinery.
the only example of airline vs. airline relationships that makes any sense is AA vs. DL for the PW2000s.
none of the other airlines has the maintenance capabilities to do their work so of course they have to send the work out.
the PW2000s for AA and the 895s for DL are/were very small fleet types...even if DL COULD bring that work inhouse, how many Trent 895s would DL overhaul? there is a point of diminishing returns.
that is NOT the case for a fleet of 50 aircraft which will be as large as AA's 772.
It isn't solely about keeping that money out of a competitor's hands. It is certainly that.
but it is also because DL isn't going to pay a premium to have a competitor maintain its engines when DL could very likely do the work cheaper based on DL's overall maintenance costs relative to AA's.
further, as with so many other things, DL negotiates deals that allow it to do work inhouse and then reduce its own costs by insourcing work from other companies.
EVEN IF DL does not gain the right to insource other work with the 330/350 engines and potentially the 717 engines, DL has very likely succeeded at getting that work inhouse for DL.
You have fretted endlessly that DL would be losing work as the 767s and 744s are retired and yet the letter seems to make it clear that DL is building the new engine shop not only to serve DL needs but also to build the MRO business.
we can argue about it for days, but I will bet you dinner that you will find out that DL is gaining the right to do not just its own RR engine work but also MRO work for the same types.
how about we stand by and wait for more details and then we can compare notes based on facts instead of 700's petulant foot stomping regarding what TAESL has and does not have the rights to do?
sadly, dawg is as stuck in yesteryear regarding the way the MRO business is run as he is about what DL did to reorganize in the past at the cost of its employees.
DL didn't accept that oil companies could screw airlines around because airlines bought fuel and were held hostage to the oil companies and refiners so DL bought a refinery.
the only example of airline vs. airline relationships that makes any sense is AA vs. DL for the PW2000s.
none of the other airlines has the maintenance capabilities to do their work so of course they have to send the work out.
the PW2000s for AA and the 895s for DL are/were very small fleet types...even if DL COULD bring that work inhouse, how many Trent 895s would DL overhaul? there is a point of diminishing returns.
that is NOT the case for a fleet of 50 aircraft which will be as large as AA's 772.
It isn't solely about keeping that money out of a competitor's hands. It is certainly that.
but it is also because DL isn't going to pay a premium to have a competitor maintain its engines when DL could very likely do the work cheaper based on DL's overall maintenance costs relative to AA's.
further, as with so many other things, DL negotiates deals that allow it to do work inhouse and then reduce its own costs by insourcing work from other companies.
EVEN IF DL does not gain the right to insource other work with the 330/350 engines and potentially the 717 engines, DL has very likely succeeded at getting that work inhouse for DL.
You have fretted endlessly that DL would be losing work as the 767s and 744s are retired and yet the letter seems to make it clear that DL is building the new engine shop not only to serve DL needs but also to build the MRO business.
we can argue about it for days, but I will bet you dinner that you will find out that DL is gaining the right to do not just its own RR engine work but also MRO work for the same types.
how about we stand by and wait for more details and then we can compare notes based on facts instead of 700's petulant foot stomping regarding what TAESL has and does not have the rights to do?