Grassroots Efforts at DL for ACS and FAs, no personal attacks.

[WeAAsles]

you could have stopped there and you would have fully explained why DL employees are thrilled with the current employment package they have compared with their peers.Not only is base pay been going up faster and more often than at any of DL's peer airlines but profit sharing is a huge and growing part of that compensation - and even if some of that is turned into increased base pay, it is clear that DL's financial success is being very fairly shared with its employees, unlike at carriers whose CEOs tell the employees that they have no influence over profitability of the company, even though the CEO their is cashing multi-million checks every month based on economic factors that he had nothing to do with either.as Kevin noted, RRs are not relegated to outsider status and they share in DL's successes.The program has been around far longer than before you ever set foot on an airplane, let alone had an airline ID badge.DL employees have made their choice and continually have the choice to evaluate what is best - unlike airlines that lock their employees into multi-year contracts right as the industry is hitting its best profitability ever and DL employees aren't having to ask for mediation and federal intervention as so many labor groups in the airline industry are doing after their attempts to get a new contract have been frustrated.Spend your time at the lemonade stand if you must; DL people aren't buying.

Ok, sure.

The Beatles - Twist and Shout [live]: Search for it.

 

[WeAAsles]

Delta airlines medical benefits are Doggy doo doo. Pew.......Stinky.

 

[700UW]

DL only gave ACS a 2%-4% raise each year for the past three years, you are lying again.

Last year alone PMUS got a 9.53% raise

 

[WeAAsles]

DL only gave ACS a 2%-4% raise each year for the past three years, you are lying again.
Last year alone PMUS got a 9.53% raise

And their medical costs have gone up as if the tank was fueled with nitrogen. "Raise poof, gone"

 

[Kev3188]

Kev what is the company contribution rate to your 401k? For mine it's a 5.5% match for EVERY dollar earned if I contribute 5.5% myself. If I put in nothing at all, the company continues 3% for every dollar earned.

2% fixed, 5% matched...

 

[WeAAsles]

2% fixed, 5% matched...

Do they match on every dollar earned Kev?

 

[Kev3188]

No. Dollar for dollar match up to 5%...

 

[WorldTraveler]

And their medical costs have gone up as if the tank was fueled with nitrogen. "Raise poof, gone"

and you are flat out lying if you think that other companies aren't raising their medical premiums or that other airlines haven't increased their own.

and DL employees' compensation increases have far outstripped the cost of medical cost increases.

anyone who is "in the know" is well aware of the increased standard of living that DL employees are experiencing.

 

[700UW]

US isn't and hasnt

 

[WeAAsles]

I guess someone hasn't seen this year's plan costs? I could put half down on a new car with the cost of just one small medical procedure.

Again Delta's medical plans. Doggy doo doo.

 

[WorldTraveler]

DL offers MULTIPLE plans and you apparently drive small, cheap imported cars.

but hey, when the TWU gave away dozens of cities - which you have acknowledged here (what choice do you have) why would you not put out a full court press to avoid admitting how bad of a job the TWU did in BK.

but 700 has acknowledged that the IAM was powerless in US' BK cases, esp. #2 to stop the company from its grab, so the question once again is what has ANY union gained since the last round of airline BKs that would keep it from happening all over again?

Let me help you out.

a BIG FAT NOTHING.

Airlines could do the same thing all over again.

 

[700UW]

We weren't powerless, we negotiated, who looked for DL ACS?

That would be no one and DL did whatever they wanted and still do, can't say that about unionized employees.

Keep up the lies.

There are numerous horror stories about DL's medical insurance from active actual DL employees not someone who said they left an eternity ago and wasn't in ACS.

What will be your n dr red herring?

 

[WorldTraveler]

The lie and distortion that you and others live with is some unmet emotional need to believe that the workplace requires a combative environment of negotiation instead of cooperation and trust.

DL has built its culture on an environment that doesn't require a union.

Given that there is ample evidence that there has been hundreds of thousands of dollars spent in order to gain tens of millions of dollars, the notion that this campaign is being done in the interest of DL employees is laughable, esp. since there is equally ample evidence that DL employees do fare better than their peers on one issue in the workplace after another.

Is DL perfect? No. could the total employment package be improved? yes.

Do unions that give away tens of thousands of jobs whether in BK or as part of out of BK negotiations have any basis for arguing that they can do better?

DL employees clearly do not believe so which is why they have said no to unions and DL employees have ensured that there are more cancelled union cards among DL employees that at any airline in the world and perhaps among any company in the United States.

 

[Kev3188]

IAM confident that most employees would like to see a cap on annual premium increases.

The only way to do that is through a legally binding agreement.

 

[topDawg]

Total compensation is not measured in just BASE wages. That proven track record by those that can be quantified by sites that have been posted numerous times proves that the TOTAL VALUE compensation does not beat all peers. Especially if you compare that TOTAL VALUE over the course of a full career.

I'm positive that if I compared my 20 year tenure against my DL counterpart also with 20 years that my numbers would be exponentially greater in that time frame.

My current medical costs and premiums alone are an immeasurable value in comparison. That proof again through multiple postings of employee expenses at DL shared and passed on other pages.

And "I" TOTALLY understand the FULL value currently afforded to me through my negotiated contract that outlines quite clearly ALL of my benefits, compensation and employment rights.

 
 WT only talks about base wage and profitsharing. Insurance is dumb.   🙄  🙄 

 

The lie and distortion that you and others live with is some unmet emotional need to believe that the workplace requires a combative environment of negotiation instead of cooperation and trust.

DL has built its culture on an environment that doesn't require a union.

Given that there is ample evidence that there has been hundreds of thousands of dollars spent in order to gain tens of millions of dollars, the notion that this campaign is being done in the interest of DL employees is laughable, esp. since there is equally ample evidence that DL employees do fare better than their peers on one issue in the workplace after another.

Is DL perfect? No. could the total employment package be improved? yes.

Do unions that give away tens of thousands of jobs whether in BK or as part of out of BK negotiations have any basis for arguing that they can do better?

DL employees clearly do not believe so which is why they have said no to unions and DL employees have ensured that there are more cancelled union cards among DL employees that at any airline in the world and perhaps among any company in the United States.

And Delta hasn't taken away thousands of jobs?