Grassroots Efforts at DL for ACS and FAs, no personal attacks.

[southwind]

Seniority doesn't exist in ACS...

Sorry. So when's the vote?

 

[700UW]

Why do you care?

You aren't voting.

And the vote will be when there is enough cards.

 

[1AA]

Why do you care?
You aren't voting.
And the vote will be when there is enough cards.

Gee we said that at AA with AMFA. Your response was the same we gave you at the AA boards. What goes around, comes around. Based on your past replies on a similar senerio I say there will be no vote. Not enough cards. That's what you told us about AMFA.

 

[swamt]

Guess its a good thing I don't care how you feel and if you believe you know everything about someone from a few post's on a forum...I've got some swamp land...

The only reason I posted a hashtag, which I believe hashtags are BS to begin with, is because some on these boards, think without them them company would fold and wanted to make sure they knew, yes employees generate revenue, but without the COMPANY infrastructure, buildings, hangers, insurance, capital and all the other things needed to run a business, the employees would not have a place to "Generate Revenue"!

Seniority! It's all you've got at DL whether you like it or not! And yes I've been bumped and close to being laid off and I'm not gullible enough to believe it couldn't happen again,!

Now, I'll ask again, when's the FA/Ramp vote?

 
 

Sorry. So when's the vote?

Haven't you heard?  Delta was able to buy the unions out again.  Every single time there is a card drive on Delta property and gets to a point of some momentum, along comes Delta and offers the employees high % raises in order to keep the unions out, it has worked every time.  I say take the 14.5% increase and STILL bring the unions into Delta it would be a win-win-win for all...

 

[Kev3188]

Yes it would.

 

[townpete]

Yes it would.

Or it could mirror whats happening at other airlines currently, after years without a contract, frozen pay, etc., the union comes back with nothing.

Right Kev? Then it's all our fault because we elected useless Union reps.

Pass

 

[WorldTraveler]

^^^this^^^

and THAT is precisely why a WN employee and a non-airline small business person want to pull down DL employees since it is clear their unions aren't delivering.

 

[700UW]

Or it could mirror whats happening at other airlines currently, after years without a contract, frozen pay, etc., the union comes back with nothing.
Right Kev? Then it's all our fault because we elected useless Union reps.
Pass

Years without a contract?

You are truly ignorant and clueless.

Contracts in the airline industry don't expire, they become amendable.

How was that 33% cut in your PS two years ago?

Did you negotiate that?

Frozen pay?

Funny the IAM CBAs all contained raise provisions after the amendable dates at US.

And there is way more to a CBA than just pay.

 

[WorldTraveler]

feel free to keep beating on that profit sharing "CUT" that is actually just the opposite.

You prove precisely why DL employees don't trust the IAM or any of their fans to tell the truth.

 

[robbedagain]

pete   answer this    why does DL allow parts of their ramp to be outsourced    don't ya think that the make up area is part of ramp?   why does DL allow outsourced vendors to work the ramp for the Shuttle flights?   is that ok in your eyes?     our contract has the best scope in the industry   

 

[WorldTraveler]

you don't really want to go there, robbed, unless you can explain why US goes with power by the hour (outsourced) engine maintenance and why AA's passenger service union JUST agreed to outsource more work.

Unions have no better track record for protecting work and we could go on for days and days

YOUR contract doesn't cover AA either. get back with us when there is a JCBA.

 

[townpete]

you don't really want to go there, robbed, unless you can explain why US goes with power by the hour (outsourced) engine maintenance and why AA's passenger service union JUST agreed to outsource more work.Unions have no better track record for protecting work and we could go on for days and daysYOUR contract doesn't cover AA either. get back with us when there is a JCBA.

Game set and match!

Hehe

 

[700UW]

Why does DL outsource their engines?

Why does DL outsource overhaul and most interior mods?

Why is 40% of ACS ready reserved with one raise and no benefits?

15% is greater than 10%.

Come numbers guy, let's read some more WT's Fabricated Facts.

 

[WorldTraveler]

you REALLY don't want to go there.

DL INSOURCES far more than US OUTSOURCES.

DL employees profit sharing increased.

With JCBAs, AA employees' profit sharing has gone to ZERO. The rest of AA/US work groups can either give up profit sharing or they can keep what they have which is minimal to no raies.

 

[townpete]

Years without a contract?
You are truly ignorant and clueless.
Contracts in the airline industry don't expire, they become amendable.
How was that 33% cut in your PS two years ago?
Did you negotiate that?
Frozen pay?
Funny the IAM CBAs all contained raise provisions after the amendable dates at US.
And there is way more to a CBA than just pay.

Like at Allegiant, after 5 years...nothing.

NOTHING!