Grassroots Efforts at DL for ACS and FAs, no personal attacks.

[robbedagain]

Josh BDL is not gonna be outsourced neither will the other cities u nor anyone else knws for fact what will be and what wont be in any jcba but if what the fas gained i their jcba it cld only give insights that cld bold very well for us at the new aa.

 

[737823]

Robbed on the AA TWU side AUS, SAT, and STL are all under the annual departures to be whacked upon amendable date. Unless a new JCBA is on place they will be gone. Since January 2013 many of the S80s in those cities have been replaced with YX E75s which don't count towards departures.

Josh

 

[WeAAsles]

Josh BDL is not gonna be outsourced neither will the other cities u nor anyone else knws for fact what will be and what wont be in any jcba but if what the fas gained i their jcba it cld only give insights that cld bold very well for us at the new aa.

"Bode" Robbed, sorry.

 

[WeAAsles]

Robbed on the AA TWU side AUS, SAT, and STL are all under the annual departures to be whacked upon amendable date. Unless a new JCBA is on place they will be gone. Since January 2013 many of the S80s in those cities have been replaced with YX E75s which don't count towards departures.

Josh

They are not under. AUS and SAT are teetering and they're are confirmed recalls to STL. SJU would have been another future concern but they also are gaining some recalls.

And AA will not close any stations until they know what a JCBA will look like since it would be ridiculous to chop only to have to restaff again.

 

[737823]

You need to have like 30 years to hold fulltime at STL last I checked. I know they are starting USAIR handling but under time CBA USAIR flights don't count. And ATL is also endangered upon amendable date.

Josh

 

[WeAAsles]

You need to have like 30 years to hold fulltime at STL last I checked. I know they are starting USAIR handling but under time CBA USAIR flights don't count. And ATL is also endangered upon amendable date.

Josh

The current amendable date is still far out there and we will have a JCBA before then that will provide clarity to the situation. We will see what the negotiators agree to and if it is acceptable to the membership in general. Either way unlike Delta employees WE will be the ultimate deciders.

 

[WorldTraveler]

I'm not going to debate a circle that has no exit. You WT cannot provide the data I "specifically" asked for so again I will go by what I find and read and pass that along to help in the effort to rectify those issues.

Have a nice day.

I provided the link.

either you can't read a spreadsheet or don't want to admit that the data fully supports my position that DL spends more on its airport employees than any other US airline and that DL employees have higher average salaries that are growing faster than they are at AA, UA, and WN.

hope your day is going very well also

 

[WeAAsles]

Single out and be specific to "Baggage Handlers" and the conversation can continue.

"Baggage Handlers" IE: Fleet Service Clerks, Ground Agents, or the horrible public term Ramp Rats.

Single, plural and separate.

 

[WorldTraveler]

there is no DOT category for any of the job categories you list.

DL also has the same pay scales for above and below wing personnel and use the RR category in both.

DL also has more stations staffed BW by its own personnel than AA/US or UA.

but of course you will try to argue that a unionized airline does better than DL despite the overwhelming evidence that is not true.

and it also doesn't change that AA's union strategy of walking away from profit sharing will be shown to be the single most costly union blunder in the US airline industry that will cost AA employees hundreds of millions of dollars per year.

 

[robbedagain]

Thanks for the clarification WeAA! 🙂
WT ur saying dl has more stations staffed bw but ur most likely including dgs which is a cheap arse company n not necessarily a dl ml company

 

[WorldTraveler]

nope, DL employee counts do not include DGS

 

[WeAAsles]

Thanks for the clarification WeAA! 🙂
WT ur saying dl has more stations staffed bw but ur most likely including dgs which is a cheap arse company n not necessarily a dl ml company

The only leg the arguer has to stand on Robbed is the "POOF" Profit Sharing carrot on a stick. I absolutely have no interest in that area and especially if that is NOT contractual and can be modified or eliminated by the waving of the management wand.

I don't like to debate the ethereal rather than the absolute concrete factual, (SPECIFIC)

Have a great day BROTHER.

 

[WorldTraveler]

and I will continue to say that AA labor's aversion to profit sharing in favor of what is supposedly guaranteed will come at the cost of higher overall compensation.

mergers and consolidation in the US airline industry have fundamentally changed the outlook which provides the best environment for US legacy carriers in decades.

the fact that AA labor is saying NO to profit sharing at the very time when it will have the most value and in complete contrast to what the rest of the US airline industry is doing will prove to be very costly

 

[WeAAsles]

You and I share the same crystal ball when it comes to future airline profits, but there is always fog in that ball.

And Delta does NOT have any contractual obligations to share their fortunes with their employees outside of their pilots who have an agreement "In Writing"

 

[robbedagain]

So true WeAA have a great day bro