Grassroots Efforts at DL for ACS and FAs, no personal attacks.

[WorldTraveler]

Except that the world isnt in nice clean boxes

DL's success in the marketplace IS related to its employees' success

I still assert that you personally have experience and abilities that provide the best job security alongside DL's success in the marketplace

Notable how significant your invest in employees saying has been born out as the AA APFA agreement has been rolled out. DL is doing that more for its employees right now more than any other airline is doing

 

[737823]

PMNW BW wing had MSP, DTW, MEM, HNL, IND, IAD, LGA, PDX, ORD, JFK, LAX, ANC, MCO, PHX, MKE, TPA, DCA, DFW, LAS, BNA, SEA, BWI, MSN, BOS, MDW, EWR, STL, MCI, CMH, DEN, RSW, GRR, FLL, PHL, GRB, SFO, FNT, IAH and MSY
 
PMDL had ATL, CVG, SLC, LGA, LAX, JFK, BOS, EWR, TPA, MCO, HNL, FLL, HNL and SJU. (I think on SJU not 100% sure on that) 
 
Also on the NW Scope if the station that had 50 flights a week on NW or 76 seat jets then it had to be mainline. So if Delta had this scope, MIA, CLT, SAN, SAT, AUS, BHM, JAX, PIT, SNA, OKC, BDL, BOI, RDU, GEG, SRQ, PBI, BUF, RIC, ORF, OMA, SMF, OAK, SJC, SJU(If it isn't ML already), CLE, CHS, SDF  would be mainline. Stations like SAV, GSP, GSO, TUL, ABQ, HSV, ALB, SYR, ROC, TLH, LIT,PNS, LEX would be really close to mainline and would likely become mainline as more CRJs roll out. (You have to figure that most of these that have a lot off CRJ flights to DTW will see some 76 seaters and/or 717s on them. Most a in the 40-45 weekly flights range and would really only take 1-2 daily flights to get them to 50+ weekly flights) 
 
So as you can see it would basically double the mainline stations on day one, Over time you could expect at least some of the 40-45 flight stations to get past 50 flights. Also some other stations line RNO, TUS and ABQ will probably get close to the number with the growth in SLC, SEA, and LAX. 
 
 
for above wing a lot of the stations listed do have above wing staff so not much would change for them however. I do not have a hard list, maybe Kev does though.

I don't care what stations PM-NW brought online, all that matters to me is my home airport is a mainline station for DL which it is and always has been. How much longer was that list of NW stations before the bankruptcy and NWA stations got replaced with ZW (while the IAM still collected dues)?

Josh

 

[robbedagain]

who cares

 

[Kev3188]

 

Except that the world isnt in nice clean boxes

Good thing this forum is literally made up of nice clean boxes, then. Please do you part. Kthx.

 

How much longer was that list of NW stations before the bankruptcy and NWA stations got replaced with ZW (while the IAM still collected dues)?

Josh

Those are two separate questions, "Josh."

 

[737823]

Ok "Kev" please share the two lists.

Josh

 

[Kev3188]

Why do you like to ask questions you already know the answers to?

One more time:

First part: Quite a bit longer.

Second part: 10-12ish if memory serves.

 

[diamondcutter]

keep touting the profit sharing that the APFA managed to get while excluding the fact that DL FAs' share of the profit sharing just in 2013 was at least several times that amount and for this year could be more than $250MAA managed to convince the APFA that they needed more language speakers and the APFA thru up its hands and gave up on that issue; AA obviously managed to wring the crew rests seats away from AA FAs so it is hardly a surprise that AA sold the APFA a song and dance that "DL won't really be that profitable so your contract shouldn't include much profit sharing."DL FAs will still walk away with far greater pay increases - and they will be rested when they do their second service and arrive at

their int'l destinations too. And DL provides a meal for them.

You really have no idea of what you are posting about !! Ask the DL fa's what their average profit sharing check IS. Also, the fact that this was a big tax break for DL, along with the fact that it won't go into their 401k and no matching. Really just ask them!!! Work rules rest and premium pay that is locked in trumps PS. What will they make topped out next year ? Ask them , they don't know. You have not seen this TA in its entirety, and we're not at the negotiations so stop posting on what you don't know!!!

 

[WorldTraveler]

you are clueless.

DL gets no tax break for paying profit sharing.

And DL employees STILL can contribute to their 401ks by adjusting their contributions on future checks before the end of the year.

it is simply ignorance and nothing more to say that someone wouldn't want a profit sharing check because the government is going to get it.

The government will get no more and no less of any incremental increase in compensation.

You are sorely ignorant if you think any DL employee is going to return their profit sharing because they can't figure out how to manage their taxes and 401k contributions.

and DL FAs will continue to have above or below deck crew rest facilities on virtually ALL DL widebody int'l flights. APFA just signed AA's way on a huge portion of the combined AA/US system in the biggest setback to US carrier FAs in decades.

 

[Kev3188]

 

it is simply ignorance and nothing more to say that someone wouldn't want a profit sharing check because the government is going to get it.

You are sorely ignorant if you think any DL employee is going to return their profit sharing because they can't figure out how to manage their taxes and 401k contributions.

I've yet to see anyone post anything even remotely suggesting a check return. Help the board understand why you keep insisting it's a thing...

 

[737823]

Is MHT still DGS both AW & BW? Been about 18 months since I was there.

Josh

 

[diamondcutter]

DL gets no tax break for distributing PS early? Over 85 percent of the new TA is US existing language. As far as crew rest on 6:59 block or less , they block pax seats for the FA's and the are fine with it !!! Again have you seen the whole TA? Will you please answer. DId you attend all the negotiations ?

 

[WorldTraveler]

There are absolutely people - outside of DL who don't have profit sharing - who want to try to argue that DL employees aren't getting what they should out of the profit sharing and that is an unadulterated lie.

and YOU cited a fairly small PS check only to admit later that it was for an RR employee, did you not?

so why are you not noting that adjusting 401k and tax withholding is precisely part of the process and can be managed?

you're the one that has a grasp of the big picture and money, Kevin.

be a leader and set the record straight.

I can assure you that you won't complain this weekend when your profit sharing check is deposited and you will figure out how to maximize your unplanned increase in compensation.

 

[Kev3188]

 

Is MHT still DGS both AW & BW? Been about 18 months since I was there.

Josh

Why not take a drive up from BOS and find out? You can join the legions of leaf peepers, and make a weekend out of it...
 
 

There are absolutely people - outside of DL who don't have profit sharing - who want to try to argue that DL employees aren't getting what they should out of the profit sharing and that is an unadulterated lie.

and YOU cited a fairly small PS check only to admit later that it was for an RR employee, did you not?

so why are you not noting that adjusting 401k and tax withholding is precisely part of the process and can be managed?

you're the one that has a grasp of the big picture and money, Kevin.

be a leader and set the record straight.

I can assure you that you won't complain this weekend when your profit sharing check is deposited and you will figure out how to maximize your unplanned increase in compensation.

None of that addresses what I asked. Again, help the readers here understand why you think people are even suggesting check returns.

 

[737823]

Why not take a drive up from BOS and find out? You can join the legions of leaf peepers, and make a weekend out of it... 

Don't want to pay for parking. Maybe Bears can go and report back.

Josh

 

[FWAAA]

and DL FAs will continue to have above or below deck crew rest facilities on virtually ALL DL widebody int'l flights. APFA just signed AA's way on a huge portion of the combined AA/US system in the biggest setback to US carrier FAs in decades.

From where are you getting this ignorant nonsense?