Grassroots Efforts at DL for ACS and FAs, no personal attacks.

[WorldTraveler]

you clearly get withered at the whip of your father and in turn developed a full fledged hatred for all things DL.

DL employees have the same types of protection as other airline employees EXCEPT that they cannot bump an unimpacted employee out of their job.

It isn't a surprise that DL employees aren't interested in a system that allows their jobs and stability to be put in jeopardy by a very small handful of people who MIGHT be impacted MULTIPLOE TIMES by a relatively small handful of employees who can bump someone who can bump someone - as happens at other airlines.

and many of those employees can usually be protected in the same city in another department - something that few other airlines can say.

DL DOES provide protection including a list of open stations.

And none of this changes anything in Josh's statement that DL has its OWN employees in more stations in the US than AA, UA, or US.

given that AA and UA have closed DOZENS of their cities to below wing personnel over the past two years, closing just one department is pretty small potatoes.

oh, and the affected employees still got and will get profit sharing. can't say that about what other airlines will get.... probably just a rotten potato.

 

[737823]

Agreed WT. Afterall:

Well its quite apparent you dont realize or know this has been going on for decades.
 
No one is guaranteed a job in their city for the life of their career.
 
Its well know in the airline industry that you would have to move in order to maintain employment.

Josh

 

[Kev3188]

Hope those PS checks cover the costs of moving...

BTW, SLC was farmed out before, and the performance was awful. Eventually, DL listened to it's people & reopened it. That's per a DL retiree from there, so take it for what it's worth.

 

[WorldTraveler]

Kev,
do you know that there is NO opportunity for the affected employees to remain in their city?

 

[robbedagain]

wrong wt  so wrong youre so clueless
 
i dont have hatred for dl at all   i have friends at dl who tell me what going on    learn to grasp things dude   clearly youre way to dl brainwashed

 

[WorldTraveler]

I can only go by the evidence you post here.

You always jump in to agree with anyone who has anything negative to say with nary a positive thing. feel free to explain why that is

 

[robbedagain]

may be its bec being in a union gives far more protection when it comes to the sheninagans that occurs  you know  like what dl is gonna do to cargo in mem..   they can fire peeps at a whim  whereas in the union  it can and will be grieved   I even met a union member who is now a high level member who was fired  got his job back plus back pay  and he proved the company wrong..   what recourse wld a dl employee have???   none..
 
its not being so much negative but laying out the facts   its you that has the problem of turning every dam thread into a pro dl this   a pro dl that    hell my dad sure as hell dont miss working for the airline  he enjoys his retirement  and if given a second chance to come out of retirement to work for dl  he'd be the first to say NO! 

 

[WorldTraveler]

what does any of that have to do with your negativity? You aren't presenting facts but instead your negative, tainted views.

DL employees do have lots of recourses, internally and externally.

If you feel that you have to respond in negative because I write in positive, then I truly feel sorry for you.

 

[robbedagain]

you do not post anything positive  youre straight up posting dl crap    i have actually posted positive things   before  and i post how i see it.     the way i see it  and the way i hear from my friends is that DL may very well go union and its my own opinion  no one elses   just mine  I'd love to see a union   IAM or whoever itll be  get in at DL for the FAs and ACS     its you thats terrified of seeing your dl go union

 

[WorldTraveler]

If you believe that DL employees have no protection, then not only are you posting lies but you are throwing in a whole lot of negativity into a discussion which could be informative among people who can bring the facts to the table.

If DL employees choose to become unionized, it will probably save the company money based on the lower compensation that other unionized airlines get away with - so no it doesn't terrify me at all

 

[robbedagain]

if they go union  and its a big if   then that will give them more of a say in matters  even Kev has pointed it out  only you chose not to believe him.  

 

[737823]

Amazing:

When DL or an unorganized carrier closes stations or cuts jobs=example of why employees need representation

When a unionized workgroup is cut="no one is guaranteed a job in a specific city", management/business decision

And again explain how it is fair to displace people un impacted by the cuts simply because they have less tenure.

Josh

 

[737823]

if they go union  and its a big if   then that will give them more of a say in matters  even Kev has pointed it out  only you chose not to believe him.

Robbed no union can stop them from shutting down uneconomical operations. Sure there can be scope that delays the inevitable but even with a CBA companies can run their business as they choose. What protections did the IAM champion for the PIT workers? They still had to move to PHL or other stations to remain employed.

Josh

 

[WorldTraveler]

Amazing:

When DL or an unorganized carrier closes stations or cuts jobs=example of why employees need representation

When a unionized workgroup is cut="no one is guaranteed a job in a specific city", management/business decision

And again explain how it is fair to displace people un impacted by the cuts simply because they have less tenure.

Josh

precisely.


fortunately DL people are issued knee high waders that they use to wade thru the excrement the union movement puts out... and DL people have shown they know how to use those boots well.

if they go union  and its a big if   then that will give them more of a say in matters  even Kev has pointed it out  only you chose not to believe him.

Kev is a great guy but he cannot predict what will happen including what may or may not be in any CBA.

Further, you still fail to acknowledge that DL has both internal and external protections which have been shown in real life to be as good as if not better than what other employees have been given.

the fact that DL has its own personnel at more airports than AA/US or UA is clear proof.

 

[Kev3188]

Kev,
do you know that there is NO opportunity for the affected employees to remain in their city?

SLC yes (though no specifics), MEM NFW....