Grassroots Efforts at DL for ACS and FAs, no personal attacks.

[BABABOOY]

It's too bad some people refuse to see the F/A corps as no more than manipulative dilettantes.

I prefer to see them as the professional, career-minded people they are.

Thats funny considering that is what many in the IAM 
and the AFA thought of those who apposed them.
"easily manipulative" "mindless drones" "stepford wives" are just
a few that come to mind. 

 

[Kev3188]

It's not funny, and it's even worse when the self-loathing comes from your peers. I hate seeing people write things like "we just sling cokes."

 

[700UW]

Ready Reserve - Good For Who?
 
In a flyer publish by Delta Air Lines, the airline puts forth its arguments defending the Ready Reserve Program. Their arguments boil down to this:
 
The Ready Reserve Program works for some workers who are looking for some extra cash and flight benefits, therefore, it is a good program. According to Delta.
 
The Ready Reserve Program allows Delta to deal effectively with changing operational and seasonal demands and saves the airline money, therefore, it is a good program. According to Delta.
 
We have heard the same arguments made by Delta executives in MSP when $10/hour aircraft cleaners were fired and replaced with $7.25/hour workers. Delta needed 200 cleaners and 300 applied. It works for those employees, we were told. It certainly works for Delta.
 
Commuter airlines employ large numbers of part time, "flexible workers". Some of these are students, mothers and people with other jobs. The problem is this creates a revolving door, a throw away job. It negatively affects passenger service, safety and the worker in the long run.
 
Its What's Wrong In America
 
We believe the Ready Reserve Program (not Ready Reserve workers) is at the heart of what is ailing America. We believe this type of program is key to how Wall Street and major corporations are targeting the middle class or working class. Every worker in America has seen the dramatic spread of part time, temporary and seasonal work. Every worker. Every worker has either felt the effect or had a family member or friend feel its effect. We all know that a part time America doesn't work.
 
While part time and seasonal work may fit for some, the vast majority of part time, temporary or seasonal workers desire full time jobs with good pay and benefits. At most large companies today, you simply can not get hired as a full time permanent employee. That is certainly true at Delta where you must start off as a Ready Reserve on the ramp or at the counter. It is not some nice convenience. It is a condition of employment!
 
Ready Reserve Is Unjust
 
One of the most unjust aspects of the Ready Reserve Program is the inability of those workers to establish seniority. If you are Ready Reserve for a couple of years, you gain nothing in terms of vacation, pay progression, paid holidays, health insurance, etc. Delta CLT, we have to ask you all personally if you think this is just or fair.
 
It is not that we don't understand the need for temporary workers in the airline industry. At least let the temporary worker build something for the future. There should be no difference between part time and full time, no difference between permanent and temporary except for hours worked. We can't allow Ready Reserves to be treated as second class citizens.
Another problem with Ready Reserve at Delta is the lack of guarantees. The number of hours worked, the pay, the percentage of the workforce that is Ready Reserve can all be changed at the Company's whim. There is only one solution to that problem - a union contract, with written guarantees.
 
Union workers, union supporters diverge sharply with Delta over the question of Ready Reserve. Our views of the future are very different. Delta believes in the WalMartization of our industry. We believe in a strong and vibrant working class.

 
 

 

[700UW]

gee this is really hard.

they filled out an affidavit for EACH FRAUDULENT CARD.

DL sent all of the AFFIDAVITS en masse to the NMB.

I'm going to go out on limb - but not a very long one - and guess that DL's legal dept. knows EXACTLY what they have to do in this case.


and why would DL FAs want to support the Machinists union who has to buy an airplane to do non-airline business and pay for the cost of that maintenance out of FA salaries.

just another reason why DL FAs don't want anything to do the IAM.

The plane was bought 17 years ago and is paid off, on the IAM LM-2 it cleary states what is spent on it.
 
And if you didnt know DL has a fleet of Corporate Jets that DL owns.

 

[WorldTraveler]

695.5

you aren't walking away from the IAM corporate jet issue.

DL FAs aren't interested in paying for a bloated union structure that will NEVER benefit them.

It is the height of arrogance that the IAM wants to represent airline employees but can't bother to use the services of the employees they represent.

and it is even more of a slap in their face to ask them to pay for that kind of luxury.

tell us how many IAM trips couldn't be flown on commercial flights?

is the reason why the IAM execs don't fly on commercial flights is because they don't want to have to face the people that pay their salaries?

It is worth noting that Richard Anderson usually flies coach on Delta.

and the aircraft doesn't fly or is maintained for free.

DL has lots of paid off jets too but they pay their people good money to maintain and operate them.


 

It's too bad some people refuse to see the F/A corps as no more than manipulative dilettantes.

I prefer to see them as the professional, career-minded people they are.

and it's a shame that you can't admit that some of the most adamant in their opposition to the IAM are those who have actually been subject to them and seen how bad they are.

and it isn't just the IAM. The most vocal anti-union people at DL are former union members at other airlines.
 
 

Thats funny considering that is what many in the IAM 
and the AFA thought of those who apposed them.
"easily manipulative" "mindless drones" "stepford wives" are just
a few that come to mind.

you forgot to mention that the only value the DL FAs have to the IAM is the $14 million in union dues they will fork over if DL union dues are anything like what other IAM FAs have to pay... and it could well be even higher than that

 

[700UW]

So when did you poll EVERY Single DL FA about the Jet?
 
Once again your making up things, Pinocchio aka World Fraudster.
 
And that dues money will pay the DL FAs who are elected to represent their brothers and sisters for flight loss pay and other expenses that it takes to negotiate a CBA.
 
So why did over 12,000 DL FAs sign cards?
 
Why are more coming in daily?

 

[metopower]

The plane was bought 17 years ago and is paid off, on the IAM LM-2 it cleary states what is spent on it.
 
And if you didnt know DL has a fleet of Corporate Jets that DL owns.

And it's not used by the DL executives. They ride on DL so they can talk to Their employees not hide and separate them selves from them. It is perception something you don't seem to get.

 

[700UW]

Sure they never, have, care to prove that?

 

[metopower]

don't have to.
you brought it up. you prove they did.
I know they didn't fly us air 

 

[700UW]

I brought up that DL has a fleet of corporate jets, nothing more nothing less, you claimed they havent flown on them.
 
Who is US Air?

 

[robbedagain]

why would DL need corporate jets  when they have a fleet of over 600 airplanes going around the world at any given moment????

 

[metopower]

I brought up that DL has a fleet of corporate jets, nothing more nothing less, you claimed they havent flown on them.
 
Who is US Air?

NO its like most things you post.you implied something. I made a statement . When you imply you can be asked to clarify. I made a statement. Prove ME wrong. I just doubt that they flew on us air  

 

[700UW]

They charter them out.

 

[metopower]

why would DL need corporate jets  when they have a fleet of over 600 airplanes going around the world at any given moment????

It is a fractional aircraft charter service that fly corporate jets. It was inherited from Comair. It is mostly planes owned by corporations lessed back and flown by a separate flight dept. for tax reasons 

 

[robbedagain]

thanks   so theyre basically the CRJ200s then that Comair used to fly?   thanks