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Tim what are the figures looking like for years 1 thru 9 in what you show the numbers for? I know many are already topped out many are not
 
Tim when you say grandfather in the west employees in the stations on the hitlist do you mean to make sure there job is safe if they outsource it?
I agree with most of your proposals but I think some may have to be toned down such as 7 holidays instead of 10, I also think a compromise on the cities on the hitlist to keep some from outsourcing such as SAN,DEN,MCI would be a good start.
The other item that some miss that I feel should be a part of a new deal, is that we should not have to wait for the raises to take effect such as a 12 or 16 month peirod.
They should be imediate.
 
Checking the oil and the air is part of a daily check which every plane has to get their is a job card that has to be stamped and signed off as well as the logbook.

Last time I checked Fleet doesnt have a license to sign off the logbook and verify the plane is airworthy.
I'm in fleet and have checked th oil on many an a/c. In small non maint cities it is common.
I've checked oil in the engines, apu, brake rider for rpositioning,de iced, airstart, reset circut
breakers in the belly of a/c for apu overspeed, opened air flow valve on eng of f100 under eng cowling,
all with out a license and with management approval. Working in an out station you do things
to get the job done also include draining the fuel sumps, overwing fueling, transfer fuel from
wing to the other wing, defueled, apu start up in am,
just never did an engine change but with the right tools I think i could do it.
 
Here's something else I want to rave about.
26 pay periods x 80 hrs =2080 hrs per year
divide your profit sharing check into that........................I got 22 cents an hour
Give it back it aint worth it, busting your rump for an extra 22 cents an hour, give me a break
 
Henderfuzz
Don't sell yourself short. Why should we not have the 10 holidays after 2011.

I agree completely that the pay raises should take place imediately. No transition period. Asking someone to wait 12 to 16 months is unacceptable.
 
Tim what are the figures looking like for years 1 thru 9 in what you show the numbers for? I know many are already topped out many are not
I didn't do the math on 1-9 but a fair increase would be the same % used for topped out. I would only add that the bottom should be $10hr so the new hires could make more and I would say $10hr 'start pay' would actually save money for the company. I know on paper the extra $1 looks like additional cost but in reality I'm sure that extra buck would save the company money.

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago
 
Here's something else I want to rave about.
26 pay periods x 80 hrs =2080 hrs per year
divide your profit sharing check into that........................I got 22 cents an hour
Give it back it aint worth it, busting your rump for an extra 22 cents an hour, give me a break

200...

Yer math is spot on...

Keep tha profit sharin'....We should take tha pay parity increase !
 
I wonder if any of the M&R group that comes in here and talks down to us realize the any line tech worth his salt at an auto dealership is making twice what they are and with just a mere divers license
 
Joe how dare you ask for that?? are you not aware that we have not had a cba since 1949?? whatever that means ..lol

I always thought having a cba with a union if you had it for 5 or for 50 years was no different I guess not
Yeah my bad. I haven't lived in this state my whole life either, I guess I shouldn't expect the elected officials in the state to represent me as if I had either. It is basically the same line of reasoning.
 
Henderfuzz
Don't sell yourself short. Why should we not have the 10 holidays after 2011.

I agree completely that the pay raises should take place imediately. No transition period. Asking someone to wait 12 to 16 months is unacceptable.


ok thats fine get 7 now than 10 by than. Works for me.
 
"IT DOES NOT COST THE COMPANY A DIME to give us P/S .. IF we profit they share

if we don't they don't share. its that simple.. love to see AL's price on that. ALL THE COMPANY WANTS IS TO TAKE OUR P/S and

line there pockets with it. IF they wanted to go buy an airplane or something like that it might be different.. Oh I'm sorry I'm

thinking of a WHOLE different AIRLINE there.....sorry"

737 agree and disagree with you on the profit sharing thing..

sidenote: also heard that Uncle Al just wants contracts tied up so the Merger Mania can begin. He could care less about transitions...

this way he can put on his flying elvis suit and jump out over Vegas in his golden parachute and sit around with Crelin and laugh about how the laid back psa

boys took Usairways for a long and expensive ride.
 
Tim when you say grandfather in the west employees in the stations on the hitlist do you mean to make sure there job is safe if they outsource it?
I agree with most of your proposals but I think some may have to be toned down such as 7 holidays instead of 10, I also think a compromise on the cities on the hitlist to keep some from outsourcing such as SAN,DEN,MCI would be a good start.
The other item that some miss that I feel should be a part of a new deal, is that we should not have to wait for the raises to take effect such as a 12 or 16 month peirod.
They should be imediate.
If we mimic the mechanics, then this year we will have 7 holidays, but 10 by 2011. All this is in the ballpark depending on what the rest of the deal looks like.

Now may be the time to look for solutions. Although I'm hopeful that the company may be more respectful, i'm not convinced of it and would support the negotiations team walking out again if there was more BS from AL.

At any rate, one solution, IMO, is NOT to throw any station under the bus, BUT, if those 19 stations are thrown under the bus again, then the human beings that 'currently' work there shouldn't be thrown under. They should be allowed to stay there and be grandfathered. It's a way for the company to get what it wants, at the same time offering protections for those who 'currently' work there.

This isn't original, the IAM did this at NW back in 1990's with some small stations. To be clear, I am not an advocate of losing any station and I think the company makes more money by keeping our own employees at stations, BUT the union's last proposal regarding this issue was troubling in that it lacked foresight into resolving this problem by not offering any protections for those affected....almost as if they didn't exist. Canale needs to quit using this technique in getting 'cheater contracts'.

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago
 
My contract wish list would be;

1. A return of the company match to my 401K. The match is more than I would get from the union pension, and you get it now not when you retire.

2. DOH seniority. The mechanics have it, passenger service has it, flight attendents and pilots are fighting for it, we should have it too!

3. A better overtime system. The east overtime system sucks. You should not be charged if you are not signed up. The west system is ok by me.

4. Shift differential

5. Full pay for sick days. When I earned them, I earned them at full pay. When I take them they should be paid at full pay.

6. Whatever the raise we get is, it should go into effect immediately. Not some formula that releases a little bit of it at a time. How about $20 now, and 2% increases every 6 months until the contract expires.

7. Double the amount of holidays that we have now.

8. If passenger service has or gets anything better than we have, we get it too.
 
Oriole I thought I was the only one as outraged as you about the profit sharing haha!


It costs the company NOTHING to give us a share of the profits. It DOES however cost them to pay us more.

So if they give all employees a raise, but not profits, they aren't losing any money!

COST NEUTRAL!

DO NOT LET THEM SLIDE ON TAHT!
 
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