Iam Fleet Service Topic 5/24-5/30

[mike33]

Hey Once around,
I wouldn't worry to much about what Tim Nelson thinks didn't he say the TA was going down....scorced earth...great pain... it never came to be. He is correct ORD does have approximately 4500 voters. However only 1000 total vote. Most of the Rampers in the ND photos are the only support the no direction has and that would be about 25 people including AG's wife who is a manager at UAL responsible for discipline and contracting out work.

None of the information about the pictures or the banner or the breakroom is correct it is all fabricated by TN. One last thing TN should not pretend to speak for UAL Ramp in ORD he got all of 10 votes out for the ratification.

Hey ORD

We're not as dumb as you think. Nobody posts a post like that by just joining today........Geeez ...How many emails do you and your kids have to use?

 

[rat tales]

None of the information about the pictures or the banner or the breakroom is correct it is all fabricated by TN. One last thing TN should not pretend to speak for UAL Ramp in ORD he got all of 10 votes out for the ratification.

You and your one post bring nothing of credibility to this forum RC. I suppose shocker is a name that one can't use any more eh! Of course CLT means "Canale Loses Tonight" so I guess ORD means "On Rides Delaney"

 

[goodfellow]

I don't know is it?
Why I am voting TEAM 2008

Team 2008 has the leadership, experience and vision to guide our union into the future

1. Leadership: Canale has vigorously pursued his education in union leadership. He graduated from the Penn State Labor Leadership Academy and has taken courses incuding: law, collective bargaining, organizing, political education, training and arbitration

2. Experience: Industry leading agreements 2000. President Canale's primary focus has always been the membership of District Lodge 141. His steady leadership and tough negotiating practices held the line against relentless attacks by the airline companies during the waves of bankruptcies that followed 9-11

3. Vision: Team 2008 represents the best and most qualified union members from the most diverse sectors of our industry. This diversity ensures that the voices and concerns of every sector of our membership are heard.

Why I am NOT Voting New Direction 08

1. Leadership: Rich is seeking your support in the office of President and General Chairman. “I believe I can help bring our members back to the IAM in a positive way. I have seen and heard the frustration of members across our system. They think the union doesn’t listen to them or focus on their concerns.†Rich believes in the importance of communication and is a firm believer that there is never enough communication for our membership

a) Rich, the members never left the IAM. B) Yes, we are frustrated the airline industry is not the good ole days of regulation. c) Importance of communication? If your canaleunplugged website is any indication of your communication, believe me that the juvenile antics displayed there are not needed.

2. Experience: He has served the membership from the time his probation ended in August of 1974. Rich started as a steward and moved steadily forward in his union career. Rich was elected by District 141 membership five times to the position of AGC.

a) And? I’m waiting to hear more. B) Do you have any degrees (besides sunburn)? Any life experiences to go head to head with CEO’s and the like?

3. Vision: “Rich has found that all success comes from a well-represented membership. If members know their issues and concerns are being addressed they are more likely to have faith in the union’s involvement in politics and more accepting of the union’s recommendations for political support in elections. Likewise, a well-represented membership is the best organizing tool a union can have. It encourages participation in organizing drives and is the best advertisement for a union. Rich added, “The members of the New Direction team have all proven their ability to represent their members and I am convinced together we will make a difference in our members’ futures.

a) Well represented membership? Let’s see what well represented means to the new direction slate. Out of 14 AGC’s, there is 1 woman, PCE reservations, 0 PCE airport, 4 US air (2 of which are 2-year tokens that will be gone in 2 years) 9 UA ramp. Looks to me as UA ramp rules. B) membership is roughly 8000 UA ramp, 9000 UA pce, 7700 US ramp, and possibly several thousand in other classifications. c) you do the math.

Yes Rich, this member does have concerns. My concern is that the new direction slate is all about UA ramp. That is the meaning of taking their union back. Their history with mechanics is their root problem. Once the mechanics left, they were freed from the rhetoric of riding on their backs. Enter the PCE. Through the IAM leadership, the PCE group was recognized. The ramp resented this. Guess what? I agreed with the ramp. The ramp had much more experience and I, as PCE, appreciated them and their knowledge. That was almost 10 years ago. PCE has gained through their ramp brothers and sisters the knowledge and experience, as the ramp did previously with the mechanics. This is the vision of the future. The US air members will need to guide their US west counterparts also. I’m hoping 10 years down the road the west will be embraced by the US air IAM and not discarded like the new direction slate intends to do to the PCE.

VOTE TEAM 2008 REAL DIVERSITY

We the membership cannot afford Randy type experience! Nor his lack of leadership. Speaking of frustration, that is the only guarantee the membership get's from team canale!

 

[cltrat]

just another shocker post he made the exact post a few days ago

How about randys degrees in scamming or fleecing the membership you forget those?

c mon mods take care of this guy once and for all he can't have that many ISP addys

 

[cltrat]

here s the proof

QUOTE (Shockeroach @ May 20 2008, 09:06 PM) *
Why I am voting TEAM 2008

Team 2008 has the leadership, experience and vision to guide our union into the future

1. Leadership: Canale has vigorously pursued his education in union leadership. He graduated from the Penn State Labor Leadership Academy and has taken courses incuding: law, collective bargaining, organizing, political education, training and arbitration

2. Experience: Industry leading agreements 2000. President Canale's primary focus has always been the membership of District Lodge 141. His steady leadership and tough negotiating practices held the line against relentless attacks by the airline companies during the waves of bankruptcies that followed 9-11

3. Vision: Team 2008 represents the best and most qualified union members from the most diverse sectors of our industry. This diversity ensures that the voices and concerns of every sector of our membership are heard.

Why I am NOT Voting New Direction 08

1. Leadership: Rich is seeking your support in the office of President and General Chairman. “I believe I can help bring our members back to the IAM in a positive way. I have seen and heard the frustration of members across our system. They think the union doesn’t listen to them or focus on their concerns.†Rich believes in the importance of communication and is a firm believer that there is never enough communication for our membership

a) Rich, the members never left the IAM. cool.gif Yes, we are frustrated the airline industry is not the good ole days of regulation. c) Importance of communication? If your canaleunplugged website is any indication of your communication, believe me that the juvenile antics displayed there are not needed.

2. Experience: He has served the membership from the time his probation ended in August of 1974. Rich started as a steward and moved steadily forward in his union career. Rich was elected by District 141 membership five times to the position of AGC.

a) And? I’m waiting to hear more. cool.gif Do you have any degrees (besides sunburn)? Any life experiences to go head to head with CEO’s and the like?

3. Vision: “Rich has found that all success comes from a well-represented membership. If members know their issues and concerns are being addressed they are more likely to have faith in the union’s involvement in politics and more accepting of the union’s recommendations for political support in elections. Likewise, a well-represented membership is the best organizing tool a union can have. It encourages participation in organizing drives and is the best advertisement for a union. Rich added, “The members of the New Direction team have all proven their ability to represent their members and I am convinced together we will make a difference in our members’ futures.

a) Well represented membership? Let’s see what well represented means to the new direction slate. Out of 14 AGC’s, there is 1 woman, PCE reservations, 0 PCE airport, 4 US air (2 of which are 2-year tokens that will be gone in 2 years) 9 UA ramp. Looks to me as UA ramp rules. cool.gif membership is roughly 8000 UA ramp, 9000 UA pce, 7700 US ramp, and possibly several thousand in other classifications. c) you do the math.

Yes Rich, this member does have concerns. My concern is that the new direction slate is all about UA ramp. That is the meaning of taking their union back. Their history with mechanics is their root problem. Once the mechanics left, they were freed from the rhetoric of riding on their backs. Enter the PCE. Through the IAM leadership, the PCE group was recognized. The ramp resented this. Guess what? I agreed with the ramp. The ramp had much more experience and I, as PCE, appreciated them and their knowledge. That was almost 10 years ago. PCE has gained through their ramp brothers and sisters the knowledge and experience, as the ramp did previously with the mechanics. This is the vision of the future. The US air members will need to guide their US west counterparts also. I’m hoping 10 years down the road the west will be embraced by the US air IAM and not discarded like the new direction slate intends to do to the PCE.

VOTE TEAM 2008 REAL DIVERSITY



Busted ....LOL

 

[perserverance]

Good Catch ''cltrat'' I was just ready to point out the
same similarity's. ''ord'' or ''shocker''............ 😛h34r: :wub:

Thanks

 

[ezchkin]

here s the proof

QUOTE (Shockeroach @ May 20 2008, 09:06 PM) *
Why I am voting TEAM 2008

Team 2008 has the leadership, experience and vision to guide our union into the future

1. Leadership: Canale has vigorously pursued his education in union leadership. He graduated from the Penn State Labor Leadership Academy and has taken courses incuding: law, collective bargaining, organizing, political education, training and arbitration

2. Experience: Industry leading agreements 2000. President Canale's primary focus has always been the membership of District Lodge 141. His steady leadership and tough negotiating practices held the line against relentless attacks by the airline companies during the waves of bankruptcies that followed 9-11

3. Vision: Team 2008 represents the best and most qualified union members from the most diverse sectors of our industry. This diversity ensures that the voices and concerns of every sector of our membership are heard.

Why I am NOT Voting New Direction 08

1. Leadership: Rich is seeking your support in the office of President and General Chairman. “I believe I can help bring our members back to the IAM in a positive way. I have seen and heard the frustration of members across our system. They think the union doesn’t listen to them or focus on their concerns.†Rich believes in the importance of communication and is a firm believer that there is never enough communication for our membership

a) Rich, the members never left the IAM. cool.gif Yes, we are frustrated the airline industry is not the good ole days of regulation. c) Importance of communication? If your canaleunplugged website is any indication of your communication, believe me that the juvenile antics displayed there are not needed.

2. Experience: He has served the membership from the time his probation ended in August of 1974. Rich started as a steward and moved steadily forward in his union career. Rich was elected by District 141 membership five times to the position of AGC.

a) And? I’m waiting to hear more. cool.gif Do you have any degrees (besides sunburn)? Any life experiences to go head to head with CEO’s and the like?

3. Vision: “Rich has found that all success comes from a well-represented membership. If members know their issues and concerns are being addressed they are more likely to have faith in the union’s involvement in politics and more accepting of the union’s recommendations for political support in elections. Likewise, a well-represented membership is the best organizing tool a union can have. It encourages participation in organizing drives and is the best advertisement for a union. Rich added, “The members of the New Direction team have all proven their ability to represent their members and I am convinced together we will make a difference in our members’ futures.

a) Well represented membership? Let’s see what well represented means to the new direction slate. Out of 14 AGC’s, there is 1 woman, PCE reservations, 0 PCE airport, 4 US air (2 of which are 2-year tokens that will be gone in 2 years) 9 UA ramp. Looks to me as UA ramp rules. cool.gif membership is roughly 8000 UA ramp, 9000 UA pce, 7700 US ramp, and possibly several thousand in other classifications. c) you do the math.

Yes Rich, this member does have concerns. My concern is that the new direction slate is all about UA ramp. That is the meaning of taking their union back. Their history with mechanics is their root problem. Once the mechanics left, they were freed from the rhetoric of riding on their backs. Enter the PCE. Through the IAM leadership, the PCE group was recognized. The ramp resented this. Guess what? I agreed with the ramp. The ramp had much more experience and I, as PCE, appreciated them and their knowledge. That was almost 10 years ago. PCE has gained through their ramp brothers and sisters the knowledge and experience, as the ramp did previously with the mechanics. This is the vision of the future. The US air members will need to guide their US west counterparts also. I’m hoping 10 years down the road the west will be embraced by the US air IAM and not discarded like the new direction slate intends to do to the PCE.

VOTE TEAM 2008 REAL DIVERSITY



Busted ....LOL

Not really, it's just a copy and paste from the earlier thread.

 

[ezchkin]

You guys on the east dont know our current contract. If I was hired in Jan 08 under the west contract I dont get vacation time until 09. So therefore I earned vacation in 08 under the west contract for 09 and recieve my vacation as well under the new agreement in the same year effectively giveing me 6 weeks as a 9yr employee.

Makes sense to me. west is one year behind the east. now you'll catch up. will they let you cash out 3 weeks of pay then take only 3 weeks vacation? or do you have to take all 6 weeks next year.

From what I'm understanding, if you were hired jan1 2008 by us east, you're entitled to 2 weeks vacation to be taken in 2008.
and 2 weeks to be taken 2009.

if you hire on with us west jan1 2008 you only accrue 2 weeks to be taken 2009.
now with the ta you transition to the new ta for vacation purposes on jan 1 2009. That means 2 weeks from 2008 and current 2009.
SWEET!

The difference is us east enjoyed 2 weeks vac in 2008 and us east has to wait 2009.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Hey Once around,
None of the information about the pictures or the banner or the breakroom is correct it is all fabricated by TN. One last thing TN should not pretend to speak for UAL Ramp in ORD he got all of 10 votes out for the ratification.

Oncearound,
you will see on June 3rd. Something wonderful is going to happen......something wonderful!

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago

 

[NevadaHP]

all that im saying per ou current AGREEMENT we acrure vacation for the next yr therefore we will get twice the vaction.

 

[cltrat]

Not really, it's just a copy and paste from the earlier thread.

sure I guess you still believe in the Easter Bunny too

 

[NevadaHP]

Makes sense to me. west is one year behind the east. now you'll catch up. will they let you cash out 3 weeks of pay then take only 3 weeks vacation? or do you have to take all 6 weeks next year.

From what I'm understanding, if you were hired jan1 2008 by us east, you're entitled to 2 weeks vacation to be taken in 2008.
and 2 weeks to be taken 2009.

if you hire on with us west jan1 2008 you only accrue 2 weeks to be taken 2009.
now with the ta you transition to the new ta for vacation purposes on jan 1 2009. That means 2 weeks from 2008 and current 2009.
SWEET!

The difference is us east enjoyed 2 weeks vac in 2008 and us east has to wait 2009.

Im glad someone else sees what I see. The new vacation for west will apply on Jan 1 09 therefore our current contract applys this yr for next yr, and the new agreement provides for the west to gain vacation the same yr effectively giving the west double vacation for 2009. OUr current agreement still applys in some sections its being fazed in, and one of those sections is VACATION.

 

[orioleman]

all that im saying per ou current AGREEMENT we acrure vacation for the next yr therefore we will get twice the vaction.

HP,
after rereading your correct for the remainder of this year your under your twu vac. under article 15 it says

effective 1/1/09 all employees will accrue a bid vac under the provisions of the cba .If I were a betting man . I'm thinking

any time you accrue this year you might want to use it . Cause effective 1/09 you will be accruing going forward. It won't

be the first time people lost there vac/sic time. Just ask anyone from PI that had 150 sicks wiped away.

 

[Hey.. Chill Out]

Is anybody getting the correct wage in workbrain yet? Mine is still showing my original wage.

 

[JoeDirt]

I saw the New Direction team in the breakroom today. They were welcomed everywhere they went.

They were very willing to answer question and very interested in meeting and talking to anyone who

approached them. The support they were recieving was overwhelming. It looks like CLT is solid

New Direction. Can't wait for June to arrive so we can show these people the support at the vote.