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[roadtrip]

Whack! Whack! Whack!

Whack Whack Whack! Like this?

 

[orioleman]

reminder for CLT members. thursday jul 10 0600-1800 polls will be open to vote for

3 delegates to send to the district convention in OCT . this will be the convention that the ND08 team

gets sworn he by the great Arse. please come out a cast your vote for 3 delegates. the names should

be posted in the upcoming days . Also the monthly meeting will be at 0800 this month. I know it's early

but each month we seem to be getting more and more fleet to the meetings and thats a good thing

a STRONG local is a local that is EDUCATED on what is going on. No more good ole boy network.

those days are gone.

 

[freedom]

I have a few more suggestions for our work group …

1. here in PHX we waste a go 40 seconds chalking the main gear for every flight .We rarely have wind conditions high enough to make this necessary … if we’re going to be hauling bag after checked bag from the jet bridge to the back of the plane then I think it’s time for management to be a bit more flexible with this rule . it’s not common sense to always chalk the main gear and i know this goes for alot of our locations .

2. we need to encourage a sprit of collectivity , too often I see a plane waiting to come into a gate with no crew and people are just driving or walking by the gate not in any way attempting to help bring in the flight .. if there are no wands at the gate and you’ve got somewhere to go I can understand , but otherwise it would be nice to see people take the 60 seconds it takes to chalk and walk the plane , I’m not suggesting we work flights that aren’t ours , simply bring them into the gate , chalk it , and walk ..

 

[necigrad]

There are a few reasons to chock the main gear. As you said wind is a huge factor. That was the AWA policy for high winds. But it's not the only reason. Have you considered the slope of the ramp? Is it the same at every gate? At every airport? No. And what about weather? Planes WILL slide on chocks in cold weather occasionally. An airline safely functions with standardization. Ask any pilot about that. Every flight needs to be done the same as much as practical, otherwise the odd situation may have something particular overlooked. I also seem to recall that an RJ got flipped or pushed into another plane or something a couple years ago in PHX by wind, caused by a monsoon, that you get often.

 

[Garfield]

safety is not the place to be cutting corners to save time

 

[JoeDirt]

Safety should never be compromised for any reason.....period.

 

[goodfellow]

I have a few more suggestions for our work group …

1. here in PHX we waste a go 40 seconds chalking the main gear for every flight .We rarely have wind conditions high enough to make this necessary … if we’re going to be hauling bag after checked bag from the jet bridge to the back of the plane then I think it’s time for management to be a bit more flexible with this rule . it’s not common sense to always chalk the main gear and i know this goes for alot of our locations .

2. we need to encourage a sprit of collectivity , too often I see a plane waiting to come into a gate with no crew and people are just driving or walking by the gate not in any way attempting to help bring in the flight .. if there are no wands at the gate and you’ve got somewhere to go I can understand , but otherwise it would be nice to see people take the 60 seconds it takes to chalk and walk the plane , I’m not suggesting we work flights that aren’t ours , simply bring them into the gate , chalk it , and walk ..

Why don't you go completely management and leave us union guy's and gal's alone! You will have more time to worry about the company, and not realize that they don't give a RAT'S ARSE about you or your co workers.

 

[robbedagain]

Speaking of safety, we had a diverted A-319 a couple days ago--I think sun or mon, and when it left, it ran over the nose wheel chocks. We are severly understaffed and was working our clt crj700 with 4 agents. now i know that a plane running over the chocks can damage the nose gear strut but what were the pilots thinking

 

[necigrad]

Dunno what the pilots were thinking, but I'm thinking WTF were chocks doing way the hell out there?

 

[roosterfish]

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1. here in PHX we waste a go 40 seconds chalking the main gear for every flight .We rarely have wind conditions high enough to make this necessary … if we’re going to be hauling bag after checked bag from the jet bridge to the back of the plane then I think it’s time for management to be a bit more flexible with this rule . it’s not common sense to always chalk the main gear and i know this goes for alot of our locations .

2. we need to encourage a sprit of collectivity , too often I see a plane waiting to come into a gate with no crew and people are just driving or walking by the gate not in any way attempting to help bring in the flight .. if there are no wands at the gate and you’ve got somewhere to go I can understand , but otherwise it would be nice to see people take the 60 seconds it takes to chalk and walk the plane , I’m not suggesting we work flights that aren’t ours , simply bring them into the gate , chalk it , and walk ..

saving 40 seconds to chock a plane isn't really going to matter in the long run.
no offense, but that sounds like something management would say...
like all of their bright ideas.

always chock...

 

[LGA Fleet Service]

Just to repeat, always chock.

LAX 2002

 

[robbedagain]

Dunno what the pilots were thinking, but I'm thinking WTF were chocks doing way the hell out there?

we had the chocks on the nose gear since it was a diversion but we watched as the plane ran over the chocks and our ops guy asked the pilots if it was a little rough and their response was yes it was.. so why not wait til we pushed our clt crj back then we would remove the chocks from the nose gear

 

[necigrad]

You said when it left it ran over the chocks. A plane can't leave without being pushed out, unless it's on a hold pad or something. This is where I'm confused. I guess he could have done a powerback, but it's not in our policy and I don't think anyone does those anymore.

 

[giantfan]

FWIW....on the backs of the employees again...this was in the Orlando Sentinel this morning:

Cost of jet fuel forces AirTran pay cuts
Jason Garcia | Sentinel Staff Writer
July 3, 2008
Orlando-based AirTran Airways said Wednesday it will slash employees' pay by 10 percent, as it fights to survive amid stratospheric fuel costs.

Post edited by moderator with a reminder that the posting of copy righted articles is not permitted. There is an article with the link in the Airtran forum

 

[goodfellow]

GF, I would hope that most would agree that fuel costs are part of doing business. No employee should bare any concessions due fuel costs! Should we give our family less money for food because it costs more to drive to work? This cost(fuel) should be structured in to the ticket price and not tapped into the employees pocket!