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So what are you saying...the dues for the entire month come out at the first of the month? Or am I paying twice as much as I did before?

First how much was the payment?

What did you pay before?

Your former AW?

You should only being making 2 payments a month if your bi week.
 
First how much was the payment?

What did you pay before?

Your former AW?

You should only being making 2 payments a month if your bi week.


1. $24.42

2. $13.78 bi-weekly

3. Yes

4. You would think

Everyone at my station was charged almost double.
 
I was informed it should be the middle of the month, most likely will be a friday so the 18th is what I'm betting on. I been asking for a firm date and when I hear something I'll post.

Later

Roadtrip
Any friday would be my guess. I would love to be proven wrong,
Bad news always comes out on friday. Who want's to bet the
next Msgr has no mention of it.
 
Complaining about the dues! LOL Wait till these westies get a eye opener when it comes to the insurance payments! The raise will keep gettin a smaller!


I'll fully prepared for the insurance payment increase because I was informed about this in print. But the dues increase is news to me and everyone else at my station.

Libertybell...
BTW, any increase in wages that I gained by the TA agreement sure beats the wage I was at prior to and what it will be 5 months from now.

Thanks Roadtrip for your help
 
Any friday would be my guess. I would love to be proven wrong,
Bad news always comes out on friday. Who want's to bet the
next Msgr has no mention of it.


When some guys ran for office about 6 yrs ago the numbers had to be published in the Messenger in the month of August. This I think might be DOL issue and the union has to comply. Tim if your out there any idea if I'm correct?

605 no problem Glad I could help.

Be sure you tell your Grand Lodge Delegates you dont want a dues increase.
 
When some guys ran for office about 6 yrs ago the numbers had to be published in the Messenger in the month of August. This I think might be DOL issue and the union has to comply. Tim if your out there any idea if I'm correct?

605 no problem Glad I could help.

Be sure you tell your Grand Lodge Delegates you dont want a dues increase.
I don't think the numbers will be in the August issue. If my memory is correct, the October issues post the results, lodge by lodge.

Separately, you raise a good point in an earlier post regarding the insurance cost rising bigtime in January for the previous westies. In some cases it will do more than eliminate the earlier pay raise. I wonder if freedom has calculated these extra dollars while appealing that more concessions are reasonable and needed to keep things 'afloat'.

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago
 
Arizona has some type of assisted medical program so many westies won't even opt for medical coverage.

I also believe Ma. has something similar. The state helps everyone out. It is time for universal healthcare especially among Union employees.
 
and here you also said

"Why don't you go completely management and leave us union guy's and gal's alone! You will have more time to worry about the company, and not realize that they don't give a RAT'S ARSE about you or your co workers. "
So what is it you want ? to do nothing , to do something ?

If you haven't been paying attention they ARE putting the costs of fuel into the ticket prices and divising new ways of doing bussniess aka AL CARTE in order to combat what will most likely by the end of this year be a 2 BILLLION dollar increase in our fuel price .. that's an EXTRA two BILLION dollars our company is going to have to pay out this year .... unless you want to go back to your BK contract it's going to take everyone of us working as hard as we can , being as creative as we can to keep our company going ....

Right now it seems to me that YOU don't give a RAT's ARSE about yourself OR your co workers ...
I care about about my coworkers more than I care about myself! My family does come first. You might find this won't penetrate your selfish personal desires by voting the way (by by 19 west cities) you did. Also admitting you don't bother going to your union meetings cause there boring? When your done being pro management and selfish maybe we would get along. As far as US and your dream boy Parker, let them figure out how to run this business! You need to cry to them not us, you voted in this last POS TA concession!!!!!
 
Two items: Voluntary furlough, and "How much money per day is the company raking in for $15 buck per bag."

Item 1: Negotiations for a voluntary furlough

Unfortunately, Canale is supposedly 'tinkering' with a voluntary furlough for the United employees. Rumor has it that he's basically just going to present what the company wants and not negotiate 'squat' other than flight benefits. WTF?

IMO, US AIRWAYS will follow both United and Continental's lead in buyout and/or voluntary furlough packages. It's inevitable.
If so then here is my opinion on the matter. If the package is consistent with some shown at other airlines then a person will need at least 10 years to be eligible. If so, then this saves your company millions of dollars if many 12+ year employees accept it, therefore, the union is in position to get 'enhancements' for the masses by being kind enough to give the company some relief that is not concessionary in character.
Some enhancements before allowing ANY voluntary furlough to be presented are extended medical coverages and getting the company to pay unemployment benefits or even allowing severance payment. I realize there are some who will say that the union should just allow the company to present its plan 'and just help out the company' since it is just an 'option'.

For instance, if the company projects savings of $10 million in a voluntary furlough from fleet, then at least meeting halfway and allowing the masses to share $5 million in an increased benefit/choice is both minimally reasonable and expected. I say "Tuffa Lucka" and no 'nice fella relief' and if the masses don't get anything for it then to heck with it. It may be that the company is too arrogant and doesn't want to negotiate this in a way that extends a favor to the masses for being a 'nice fella'.
Anyways, something to think about since IMO there is no way out for this company without at first seeking some relief with a negotiated voluntary furlough settlement.

Item 2: How much does your company get per day for $15 bucks a bag.
If each major airline has about 100,000 bags per day they check then multiply this by $15 and that is $1.5 million bucks a day or an approx $500 million a year. This is important if your company comes back for concessions. Further, this increased revenue should be shared by the masses if the bag charge stays after oil stablizes. Just random thoughts. The alternative is to have the execs and stockholders pocket the increased revenue in the next cycle of profits when and if they should come.

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago
 
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