IAM Fleet Service topic

[Tim Nelson]

Since a labor union is a non-profit organization, covered under the LMRDA, how would "voluntary" donations be handled and is it legal?

yeah. Of course it is. Happens all the time. Last year, DL 141 received thousands in contributions for our organizing drives. On an individual level, the question is what is the tax deduction for the person giving?? Unlike someone who gives to their church, etc, there is no tax benefit for an individual who makes a contribution or gift to a labor organization. For contributions to organizations like Labor Unions, organizations that seek to change laws, Chamber of Commerce, home owner associations, individuals...there is no tax deduction benefit for the donor. Thus, any contribution from our AGC's won't see a tax gain unless we can change the tax code and make the IAM some sorta church.

regards,

 

[Tim Nelson]

Tim,

I would like to address, or rather, give my thoughts on the occupy141 platform.

Item 1, isn't AGC base pay $98k a year? And if so, where are you getting the $125k figure? And is it not true that you once stated that you couldn't be paid enough to be an AGC? Why the sudden change of heart regarding AGC pay? And just to clear the air, you are asking for VOLUNTARY pledges, not an actual pay cut correct. To do an actual pay cut for the AGC's, the by-laws have to be changed correct? So I just want to be clear, this "pledge", is not an actual pay cut, and really not enforceable correct?

Item 2, 3, & 4, IMO, you wont be able to collect the deductions so these items are moot.

Item 5, Isn't the Eboard comprised of all the elected officials from DL141? How would you "create" this diversity? The Eboard right now is pretty diverse, wouldn't you agree. Or will it be because it's not the eboard of your choice, and by your choice, I mean the slate you are putting together, it is not diverse enough?

Item 6, You know my thought on this, IMO, I think this is just you grandstanding, preying on the ignorance of the "masses" to think that you can accomplish this. I know that you can't deliver this promise, and deep down I think you do to. What do we get when you can't deliver this campaign promise? I'll tell you what we get, squat, nadda, zero, nothing, just you saying "I tried".

Item 7, Agree

Item 8, See items's 2, 3, & 4

Item 9, Agree, but with some understanding that they will assist other stations/AGC's if/when and as needed.

Item 10, Agree with some reservations.

Item 11, Agree

PJ,

Item 1: Kindly review the LM2 reports. AGC's are over $100,000. Not sure where or who you are listening to that tells you otherwise. $120,000+ is the Presidents salary. I'm not sure if I could be any more explicit by saying they are volunteer deductions and all Occupy 141 team members have signed a commitment letter. Monies will be posted on the website beginning the first check. If you don't believe it will happen then I'm not going to try to convince you, but our union is under alot of pressure with the TWU and the IBT so it makes no sense to lie. If I'm blessed to represent the group then it will be done.

At any rate, an AGC job with US AIRWAYS is a tough job, especially when you have kids in school. It doesn't help when the District UA president refuses to give the necessary resources to your AGC. The US AIRWAYS AGC has to fly all over the nation because they have alot more members to represent than a UA AGC. At any rate, I don't explicitly remember saying that but I suppose it fits since I never felt I could truly commit to an AGC job until my youngest son graduated from high school. My son graduated this past August so I now owe it to myself and the membership to do all I can to bring this union back to the members like it never has been.

Item 2: Thankfully, it isn't conditioned on your opinion. It will happen. Nuff said

Item 3, 4: This will happen regardless of anything else. It saves $200,000 over 4 years of your money. Having an in-house attorney actually not only saves money and billings but it provides triple the resources for our members. If you need me to explain how this saves money then just ask. You need to understand that the reason why we have high priced outside law firms [again, kindly review the LM'2's before you falsely assume things], is because of all the perks, i.e., executive suites for conventions, limo's, tickets, etc. I won't be needing any of that and neither will any of our new AGC's.

Item 5: PJ, the eboard may be diverse enough for you but not me. Of the 23 permanent full time jobs on the eboard [Prez, S/T, 21 AGC's,] do you see any blacks? Blacks are almost a majority class in our district and I think it makes us stronger if we strive for more diversity than what we have. Are there any female rampers? I think we have to strive to make sure all voices are on the district dime. As long as this is my ticket, I'm going to strive for diversity. Divsersity also means more than just race/sex. We must be sensitive to having a part timer on negotiations and a lead. Remember, it makes us stronger to have ALL voices, at least it will make me stronger.

Item 6: No ignorance needed.

Item 8. Not sure if I follow you. It's a given and if we can't have stenographers like other unions do then we are just a cruddy union that blows money unnecessary.

Item 9: sorry bud, doesn't matter if you agree with it or not. It will happen because I'm actually giving you the one thing that you been complaining about and you are pissed. Sheesh. Cut out the politic blinders PJ and start supporting your US AIRWAYS family on these items. If we have you and others playing politics complaining about the very things you been begging for, but you dont' support now because I'm the one who is bringing it to you since Delaney lied. At any rate, you better hope he doesn't have a pen to sign off on a LOA when AH comes calling for your station. Certainly, your AGC won't have your back and the AGC flipped like a pancake after he went on TV in BUF. His own blood got locked out and he turned the pages that Delaney pimped those guys on. I never would have thought.

Item 10: You agree but with some reservations??? Really? If you want to support the establishment then fine, you will get your status quo and you will wish me away. But those who have a hard time agreeing to this platform are just biased due to their politics.

Oh, and we have identified over $2 million in YOUR savings that we will be saving. The looting of this district is a joke and IMO it makes no sense to waste away all the money that they do.

Onward www.occupyiam141.com

Tim

 

[no more cuts]

Tim,
wish you were in charge before they whacked by station. it sucks commuting and missing family time. I just want to say to PJ have you ever had
your station whacked and had to either uproot your family or commute, let me tell ya it sucks and I have only been doing it for a few months. If your in
a small station you might want to really be mindful of whats going on. It has become obvious that the leadership we have now either doesn't know how to handle
this company or just doesn't care either way peoples lives are being effected because of there ineptness

 

[Tim Nelson]

Tim,
wish you were in charge before they whacked by station. it sucks commuting and missing family time. I just want to say to PJ have you ever had
your station whacked and had to either uproot your family or commute, let me tell ya it sucks and I have only been doing it for a few months. If your in
a small station you might want to really be mindful of whats going on. It has become obvious that the leadership we have now either doesn't know how to handle
this company or just doesn't care either way peoples lives are being effected because of there ineptness

obviously they don't care enough to stand up to Delaney. I mean, going on the tube and stomping feet but then allowing Delaney to sign on to the continual lockout is a real joke. No nothing. Of course, it isn't like they have PHL or CLT or PHX that they have built up with solidarity. Maybe if these guys slightly understood that they have to build leverage by building solidarity instead of cutting deals with management, BUF, IND etc wouldn't be closed.

Of course, I can hear the violins playing as they say "Management refused to listen", "Management can't" "Management wont", "Canale this", "Canale that". Folks it has been 4 years next month that these guys have been nominated, and they actually agreed to accelerate the Canale station closing schedule. Never mind that as PJ said, there is a backlog of grievances, obviously due to the restriction of 5 US AIRWAYS AGC"s that are doing twice the work as UA agc's. US AIRWAYS is only second best with this district. I'm doing all I can to build support at UA and CO, and we need all from US AIRWAYS to stick together so you can share equally with our UA brothers and sisters.

regards,

 

[robbedagain]

Tim,
wish you were in charge before they whacked by station. it sucks commuting and missing family time. I just want to say to PJ have you ever had
your station whacked and had to either uproot your family or commute, let me tell ya it sucks and I have only been doing it for a few months. If your in
a small station you might want to really be mindful of whats going on. It has become obvious that the leadership we have now either doesn't know how to handle
this company or just doesn't care either way peoples lives are being effected because of there ineptness

I hear ya on that one I was in a small station that got hammered to death and then outsourced. for 2 1/2 yrs I commuted between my current station and pa...a 3 hr drive before finally moving to md. now my concern is or should be what happens next weve seen us treat buf ind msy etc whose to say they wont do it to my city or anther city. this coupled with grievances etc goes to show the lack of leadership the iam truly is and a pathetic one too. iam mtr is probably a hell of lot better than the fsa one

 

[wings396]

Tim, I have followed your posts for many years now and agree with just about everything that you have to say. You have attempted to stand up against the IAM and their pathetic leadership from day one. I hope that you can get into position to make some long overdue changes.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Tim, I have followed your posts for many years now and agree with just about everything that you have to say. You have attempted to stand up against the IAM and their pathetic leadership from day one. I hope that you can get into position to make some long overdue changes.

Thanks for the kind words wings396. But as much as myself and others tried to tell the members how the 1113 letters were frauds and had no teeth to keep a company coming back, the leadership shoved it down. And as much as I was made the bad guy when I rose up against the IAM Pension plan telling everyone that the defined benefit really wasn't defined because it wasn't even guaranteed, the leadership shoved it down. Thankfully, Canale got voted out but I started seeing the cancer spread again as Delaney repeated the terrific acts when he signed the Hawaiian agreement, lost the Aloha workers, and signed his name to destructive agreements at United and now at US AIRWAYS. The only way it will stop is by having someone who realizes it's all about the masses and the power is with them. Therefore, I owe it to myself and to the masses to do this. It won't be fun, it will be sacrifice. Just like when I led the organizing department, I was gone almost always from home but that's how you have to work in these sorta jobs. But they are incredibly rewarding when you deliver and make people's lives better for them and their families.

Onward www.occupyiam141.com

Tim

 

[ChockJockey]

Therefore, I owe it to myself and to the masses to do this.

The masses of whom?

 

[Ramp Rogue]

In USAir mainline cities, when it comes time to set up the gate for the flight, who does it? Is it the lead, the agents, or both?

Rogue.....

 

[28L_or_10R?]

Everyone is *supposed* to do that.

 

[robbedagain]

in my station its the responsibility of all agents and leads

 

[Ramp Rogue]

In my station the leads have to set up the gates for all of the flights. While the agents are in the breakrooms watching tv. They don't have to come out until the plane is coming to the gate. Another hp rule.

Rogue.....

 

[Harry Callahan]

Why would anyone be a lead 🙄

 

[Ramp Rogue]

Why would anyone be a lead 🙄

It's the easiest way to go from parttime to fulltime.

Rogue.....

 

[necigrad]

In my station the leads have to set up the gates for all of the flights. While the agents are in the breakrooms watching tv. They don't have to come out until the plane is coming to the gate. Another hp rule.

Rogue.....

Not a HP rule. That's a lazy management rule. In LAS for HP the rampers set up the gate because the lead was planning the flight. Post merger I think that mentality has stuck to some extent, and widened in other cases to one of camaraderie post furlough. There's no excuse for the rampers to not be involved in setting up the gate. In fact, I think the GOM specifies that ALL of the crew is to be there 10 minutes prior.