New East A320 configuration.

[BoeingBoy]

But did you ever get a shuttle bus to F-con????

Jim

 

[AstroLounge]

I am on an airbus trip as we speak and have to say that is totally blows. The 320 is WRONG all the way around. The galley, first class, no closets, equipment in the overheads, the cart....ugggg I don't care what ANYONE says it does NOT work and you have absolutely NO room to do anything. Why should we have to hang snacks off the drawer, use cups for cream/sugar in the drawer, pile everything on top of the cart in a bad way. Why should we have to sit in the back galley looking at the top of the cart trying to find a way. Folks why do we have to makeshift the cart. A way that works for all is NOT this cart. The person responsible for the f/c on the 320 should be fired immediately. What a circus.

FIRED!? How about stoned at the Boarding Door by Crew/Gate Agents and fellow pax. The jack*ss that EVER came up with this config and cart packout needs a swift kick! Their idea of a cart packout looks so freakn GHETTO and you will N-E-V-E-R see that sh*t getup on one of my flights, Trust Me! And service wise, you can only imagine how bad it will deteriate (yes, it can get worse)....many I have spoken with will dump the Lead position whenever they see too many 320s on a trip pairing. And bumping someone junior into a position when That person doesn't want it makes for AN UGLY INFLT EXPERIENCE. They just DON'T Get It! :down:

 

[USCREW]

Their idea of a cart packout looks so freakn GHETTO and you will N-E-V-E-R see that sh*t getup on one of my flights, Trust Me!

I will do everything in my power to avoid flying A or C on this flying circus.
I can NOT believe the new set-up for the top of the cart. Paperclips to hang things over the bucket like a camel? Puh-leeze.

 

[Travelpro72]

Well I don't think they are gonna change anything regardless of our B!tching or not. So I guess we all will find ways to make it work. This new way of doing the cart I'm sorry to say will NOT break the flight attendants who work on the line and KNOW BEST of changing it RIGHT BACK. Resisting change is one thing but refusing to change to something non safety related that just makes no sense is another. The woman I'm flying with and I brainstormed for a minute and came up with something that really TRULY worked with keeping the ice on top. As for the closet crap up front....again YOUR FIRED. This company DOES NOT care about it's employees nor the customer. It's quite evident in just about EVERY change made to date.

 

[trvlr64]

Hey PHX-F/A !!! are you reading what your coworkers on the "EAST" side of the operations are saying?

So your posting in another thread about there's no need for a closet and it only slows the boarding process down has been debunked.

On the "west" side of the operations you're used to not having a closet and a smaller galley area since that's how your planes were configured from the very beginning. On the "EAST" side they're are not. The workflow and passenger boarding flow has been greatly disrupted.

Now do you get it? Or do we need to draw you a picture?

 

[AstroLounge]

Most people are not so reluctant for change AS LONG AS IT MAKES SENSE. What has taken place on the AB has been a nightmare for F/A's and Caterers alike. Many people tell me they don't even count what is in the cart anymore, and I know for a fact some NEVER did. Some do not even do a liquour report. The prior way of provisioning at least contained all the revenue items (liquour/headsets) in ONE CART.....now it is All over the place. Everyone wants to blame each other but the blame on this clearly falls on Tempe.The AB used to be the a/c of choice, now people do whatever/whenever and IF....

 

[Travelpro72]

I tried before my trip to get a sheet of paper or someting describing exactly how this company wanted the cart done. NO SUCH LUCK. So when I got onboard we had not been catered yet or as from what I could tell. The caterer came on and I swear to god stood at the j/s back in the coach galley and just stared at the compartments for a minute. When we went back to set up on the 321 there were 4 carts with liquor, 2 buckets of beer which one was the big gray bucket and the other like in f/c. The girl flying "B" said, "I'm to count all this and put it on an AB-1 form"? Never gonna happen. If this process was made more SIMPLE and REALISTIC we wouldn't have such a problem. Also WHY do you need two full drawers of just Coke/diet Coke? I have not used them all yet. Ugggggggg. I shouldn't have to cram things in places when they all HAD a place before. This is NOT an improvement and will NOT be adhered to. SORRY.

 

[LCC_#1]

Many people tell me they don't even count what is in the cart anymore, and I know for a fact some NEVER did. Some do not even do a liquour report. The prior way of provisioning at least contained all the revenue items (liquour/headsets) in ONE CART.....now it is All over the place.

And someone had the nerve to complain that nobody leaves paperwork for the liguor form.

I don't get catering. I have seen it done correctly with my own eyes!! One serving cart, a supplementle cart, and an ice/h2o cart....nothing else unless selling BOB. Everything else taken off. It CAN be done. I have seen it. People just aren't reading memos and just being dickheads! DO YOUR FREAKIN JOBS!!!

The drawers work for me and I like the ice on top. Everyone do their GD job correctly and it works. What a concept!!

The worst offenders? PHL catering who makes life difficult by restocking the carts. Humm.....20 minutes of restocking 3 carts as opposed to 1 minutes to change out the carts. STUPID!!

Other offenders? THE F/A's. I can only speak for CLT, but HOW many weeks did we have the carts displayed in the crew room?!! Anyone ever heard of theHUB??? But our wonderful f/as pull and lift and create a mess when all they have to do is put the ice bucket on top, set up the cupps, etc and head out and then place the cart back in its place. SO HARD!

Sorry guys, I have seen and done it the way the company wants. Everytime I set the carts up for someone still doing it the old way, they say afterward..."Wow, that was easy. I like this better." Hmmmmm

Write up catering. Thats where the mess starts.

I tried before my trip to get a sheet of paper or someting describing exactly how this company wanted the cart done. NO SUCH LUCK.

Cart set up starting on page 76

Hope this helps.

 

[Travelpro72]

Well I guess it's a personal thing then. All of the flight attendants on the plane did it. We set it up and it sucked. You should NOT have to have that crap shoved everywhere. So that being said we used a topper with ice poured into ONE double bag. That left room for you to put water and cups inside the topper. You NOW have freed up space to god forbid set a glass down or can. Oh yeah how about hanging snacs of a can or wine bottle down below...THAT IS JUST AMAZING. WHO thought of that? The cart blows. I agree with the galley mess. It is a combo of f/a's and catering not knowing.

 

[LCC_#1]

I take the blue ice bucket, place three bags of ice with 1 bottle of water in the middle and the party cups. I then make a hole in the liner and put the coffee cups in so they are stable. coffee on one side, hot water on the other. Still room for the snack mix. Whether your giving the can or pouring, you don't need the space on top. I'm not a fan of hanging stuff with wine bottles either.

In the first tray, I take out the first juices (lunch/dinner) or sodas (breakfast) and put sugars creams and lemons/limes The napkins go on top of that. It works really well. Everything is right there at my hands. Well, thats how I do it and it works for me.

 

[SS255]

But did you ever get a shuttle bus to F-con????

Jim

Yes...after about a 10 minute wait.

 

[Travelpro72]

Ya see, everyone has their little things they do. It's silly and not well thought out. This too shall pass.

 

[Itestwell]

Ya see, everyone has their little things they do. It's silly and not well thought out. This too shall pass.

I just do it the way we have been doing it since we got the airbus. Seems to work for me. :unsure:

 

[JMM]

Finally read all this, man I wish we had closets on our planes. It would make so many things so much easier. I am sorry the sand-castle has done this to your planes. However, they never listen to us .... I just tell pax to email "douglas.parker@usairways.com"

 

[Harry Callahan]

I don't think he reads or responds to his emails.