New focus city in SAT?

[DCT JVL]

Strange set of destinations -- except they are all within UAX RJ range. Any idea why this set of cities were picked? Do they all lack non-stop service at the moment? Just overpriced by AA and CO through their hubs?

I seem to remeber a NewsReal a few weeks back that mentioned UAL signing a comprehensive travel agreement with Toyota. The SAT service was, in part, a result of the Toyota agreement. SAT is a big city for Toyota and it would not surprise me if the other cities are "Toyota-centric" as well.

Toyota - SAT

** Quick update to my post above ** My "Toyota-centric" theory is pretty much garbage . I went to the Toyota USA web page and searched for jobs in all of the cities Transtates is flying to (ABQ/COS/MCI/MSY/OKC/OMA/TUL) from SAT and came up with nothing. You can bet the SFO service is for Toyota to connect to Asia. As for the rest, I'm at a loss. I guess the Toyota contract helped subsidize entry in to the market and somebody WHQ saw an opportunity. Let's hope it works.

 

[eolesen]

Mike Boyd wrote a piece about this on his website, pretty much boiling it down to TransStates having a few extra RJ's and nowhere to fly them, so SAT was picked.

Unfortunately, RJ focus cities haven't worked for anyone unless they're tied to a bigger network, i.e. MEM & CVG. I don't see this working, so it's probably better off for AA and WN to just sit back and let it fail on its own.

They'd have been better off putting the focus city at DAL, operating 50 seaters beyond the Wright Amendment states...

 

[coolflyingfool]

I would love to see the DOT numbers for the markets that are going to be served from SAT. SAT-OMA is the biggest question in my mind.

 

[ELP_WN_Psgr]

I would love to see the DOT numbers for the markets that are going to be served from SAT. SAT-OMA is the biggest question in my mind.

Your wish is my command.

ABQ-SAT avg 147 psgrs per day at an avg fare of $164. It is 609 miles and WN has a 67% mkt share.

COS-SAT avg 72 psgrs per day at an avg far eof $196. It is 732 miles and AA is the lgst carrier in the mkt with a 45.4% share.

MCI-SAT avg 252 psgrs per day at an avg fare of $156. YX is the leading carrier for this 706 mile trip at an avg fare of $156.

MSY-SAT avg 218 psgrs per day at an average fare of $121. WN has 69% of this market and it is 495 miles.

OKC-SAT avg 148 psgrs per day at an average fare of $123. WN has 76% of the market and it is 407 miles.

OMA-SAT avg 87 psgrs per day with average fare $188. AA is leading carrier with 49.8% of market. Distance is 824 miles.

SAT-TUL avg 125 psgrs per day with average fare $113. WN is leading carrier with 75% market share. Distance is 483 miles.

Interesting fun facts from DOT report ---

More people fly SAT to BWI (398 per day) than fly to the other two DC airports combined (359).

More people fly SAT to OAK (119 per day) than to San Francisco (94)

Little Rock is a city with no nonstop svc from anyone yet it is larger than SAT-COS or SAT-OMA (105 psgrs/day)

 

[coolflyingfool]

Thanks for the numbers. You are good ELP WN. I would guess that UA is trying to develop the markets out of SAT. Only 2 of the markets have more than 150 pax a day. Good luck to UA, as I think they might really need it here. just my thoughts..........

 

[WorldTraveler]

actually, DCT, your original information was correct. UA won a sweeping contract w/ Toyota and made a number of service changes (network, airport, and in-flight) to accommodate them. Toyota is building a new plant in San Antonio.

 

[formeraa]

actually, DCT, your original information was correct. UA won a sweeping contract w/ Toyota and made a number of service changes (network, airport, and in-flight) to accommodate them. Toyota is building a new plant in San Antonio.

This DOES make sense. It is basically a contract service guaranteed to breakeven by Toyota. Meanwhile, SAT gets some well-deserved additional non-stop service.

Does anyone know what gates the new Trans States service will use? United only has the two gates at the end of the concourse. Given the published schedule, they will probably need 4 gates to operate these flights.

 

[TXL]

I would love to see the DOT numbers for the markets that are going to be served from SAT. SAT-OMA is the biggest question in my mind.

Your wish is my command.

ABQ-SAT avg 147 psgrs per day at an avg fare of $164. It is 609 miles and WN has a 67% mkt share.

COS-SAT avg 72 psgrs per day at an avg far eof $196. It is 732 miles and AA is the lgst carrier in the mkt with a 45.4% share.

MCI-SAT avg 252 psgrs per day at an avg fare of $156. YX is the leading carrier for this 706 mile trip at an avg fare of $156.

MSY-SAT avg 218 psgrs per day at an average fare of $121. WN has 69% of this market and it is 495 miles.

OKC-SAT avg 148 psgrs per day at an average fare of $123. WN has 76% of the market and it is 407 miles.

OMA-SAT avg 87 psgrs per day with average fare $188. AA is leading carrier with 49.8% of market. Distance is 824 miles.

SAT-TUL avg 125 psgrs per day with average fare $113. WN is leading carrier with 75% market share. Distance is 483 miles.

Interesting fun facts from DOT report ---

More people fly SAT to BWI (398 per day) than fly to the other two DC airports combined (359).

More people fly SAT to OAK (119 per day) than to San Francisco (94)

Little Rock is a city with no nonstop svc from anyone yet it is larger than SAT-COS or SAT-OMA (105 psgrs/day)

Do you have a link to this information? Interested in looking at other city pairs.

 

[Non Rever]

Do you have a link to this information? Interested in looking at other city pairs.

Try this link http://www.faremeasure.com

It has lots of neat info about markets and is easy to use.

 

[Kev3188]

What a great site. Thanks for the link!