OCT/NOV 2012 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[CV580ETOPS]

How many passengers did you kill?

AWA had zero fatalities.

Didn't you guys taxi into the dirt not long ago? How about that landing at TPA?

Hey, don't forget the 757 tail strike and the A321 tailstrike in DEN .

cv

 

[Phoenix]

said the smiling dinosaur

You are too old to wear purple with green! It clashes with grey.

 

[Phoenix]

As distasteful as personal responsibility can be, it is still a fact of life...even if one ignores it.

As distasteful as democracy can be, it is stall a fact of life... even if one ignores it.

 

[traderjake]

As distasteful as democracy can be, it is stall a fact of life... even if one ignores it.

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.

Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.

Benjamin Franklin

 

[Phoenix]

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.

Benjamin Franklin

Even if Benjamin Franklin ever said that...

its still democracy when two lambs eat the wolf. It IS what it IS. 😀

 

[traderjake]

Even if Benjamin Franklin ever said that...

I guess in your world if it wasn't said in a USAPA Update it's not crediable.

 

[Claxon]

I'm very familiar with Wye. And it's true the east has always been face up - with DOH.

Asking us to voluntarily take a haircut on SLI?

Bzzzzt, no.

The blame is all east. Didn't want to negotiate so they disengaged and went all in on arbitration.

No DOH there so lets try the USAPA route. Now coming up on 10 years under LOA93.

It's all yours boo.

Your contract offer would specifically screw the PHX pilots dude. You obviously don't know anything because either you haven't read your union's proposed DOH with conditions and restrictions or you're just a typically USAPPA #### that misrepresents facts.

I'm just fine where we are for another couple of years... You (pl) are keeping the airline cheap which helps the bottom line, the rest of us westies will inherit the kingdom once we merge in a couple years. You are not needed.

Opinions of the affo, angry furloughed f/0 AWA pilots.

 

[Claxon]

Why is it that management can smile while the pilots fight?

Because the east pilots refuse to live up to your agreements. If you had accepted binding arbitration 5 years ago we would not be sitting here watching management take advantage of us.

Parker will only give us a contract when the pilots have enough leverage. As is usapa will never get any leverage. If the east pilots were to finally accept what you agreed to Parker would have not excuse, the entire pilots group would unify and there is our leverage.

Otherwise we sit and Parker wins everyday.

Did you listen to the crew news, no west hiring untill at least the end of 2013.

 

[Claxon]

Where's my contract big guy?

What has the former St Nic chest thumper done to help lately, in attaining a USAirways pilots contract. American pilots want to know.

 

[Claxon]

I will be posting more facts from the public, post franke but influenced and mentored for life by franke, america west pilots website. The following is the transition agreement of the west and east pilots.

http://leonidas.cact...n_Agreement.pdf

 

[CV580ETOPS]

Excepting any damage from the potential AMR transaction, my career expectations are the same, exactly, as they were in 2005. I will upgrade to a 330 left seat about 2 years before retirement. Amazing. Greeter

And remember, when you do upgrade to that 330 left seat you will be making less per hour than a top of scale Air Tran 737 captain flying domestic day trips out of ATL.

Enjoy LOA 93.



cv

 

[Move2CLT]

No, like the Nic and failed court hopes. Folks in the minority can continue to scream that there is no unity because they fail to join the majority or they can abandon a hopeless failed strategy that the majority already rejected. The minority can offer alternatives, accept the offer to have discussions about a workable solution, or they can keep whining and hope that things will be different, though they just enjoy whining more than progress.

The circumstances have changed so dramatically since multiple base closures, the reality of age 65 around the corner, and tell us about how much the lists have changed... what, the East list is like more than 1,000 numbers shorter than it was when Nic made his decision.

Its a whole new world and those who aren't content with things the way they are can just keep whining. Its a free country.

No to all your fantasy.

 

[Phoenix]

I guess in your world if it wasn't said in a USAPA Update it's not crediable.

Two lambs eat one wolf... its still democracy, and its so simple a cave man gets it.

 

[Move2CLT]

Even if Benjamin Franklin ever said that...

its still democracy when two lambs eat the wolf. It IS what it IS. 😀

So segregation was what it was?

You don't think much, do you?

 

[traderjake]

So segregation was what it was?

Let's hope Barney doesn't want to vote slavery back in, after all majority rule is all that matters.