OCT/NOV 2012 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Move2CLT]

"Couldn't" care less...

Either or. Both idioms are accepted. Only a-holes have problems with it and feel the need to point it out.

 

[Phoenix]

... You know as well as I do that your fences were totally and absolutely worthless. ...

That looks like an admission that PHX is absolutely worthless... so what of the West has ANY value? Oh yeah, Parker talked about that at the last crewnews. You guys are catching on...

 

[nevergiveup]

And you guys chose LOA93 over the Nic. That was by choice as well.

Our new contract is just about complete and will soon be ready and waiting for the both of us. You won't have to worry about ratification.

Are you saying there will not be a vote?

 

[Move2CLT]

Are you saying there will not be a vote?

If this merger happens, that's EXACTLY what I'm saying.

 

[nevergiveup]

If this merger happens, that's EXACTLY what I'm saying.

If you are referring to the AA contract, then you are probably correct.

 

[Move2CLT]

If you are referring to the AA contract, then you are probably correct.

I am and I am.

And I'm also correct that the APA will use the Nic to integrate with their list. They, along with the company, will push this through so fast your head will spin.

 

[nevergiveup]

I am and I am.

And I'm also correct that the APA will use the Nic to integrate with their list. They, along with the company, will push this through so fast your head will spin.

I'm sure they will.

 

[Move2CLT]

I'm sure they will.

Your head should be spinning before the end of the year.

 

[nevergiveup]

Your head should be spinning before the end of the year.

If you so wish.

 

[luvthe9]

Doug Parker speaking to America West Pilots

"First off, as to the . . . the stagnation of growth, for America West
pilots since the merger – what I will tell you is, and this is a hard thing to
communicate to people but I believe it with all my heart: If we didn’t do the
merger with US Airways, you’d be in a lot worse position. Frankly, I think
as a 3 [year] F/O, you wouldn’t have a job.

We would have gone through a bankruptcy filing. We would have
downsized. We had an airline at America West that had 20% lower unit
revenues than US Airways and now has the same unit costs. That airline
could not survive. We would have tried to make it better. We’d go file
bankruptcy and get ourselves a little stronger and now the economy’s back
and we’d be trying to come out like Delta is.

But I swear to you that [the] airline was going to file bankruptcy.
When it filed bankruptcy, we would have downsized at least 15%, and, you
know, while you feel bad about stagnation, you should feel better about that
versus where you were headed. And that’s where we were headed." OUCH!!!!!

 

[luvthe9]

We are all glad to see AMR getting a contract very soon. should be interesting.

 

[Metroyet]

We are all glad to see AMR getting a contract very soon. should be interesting.

Interesting for the APA. You on the other hand will be on a much worse contract than the APA negotiated in Bankruptcy....with not such much as a glimmer of hope for any improvements as far into the distance as you care to look.

 

[Move2CLT]

We are all glad to see AMR getting a contract very soon. should be interesting.

Yes, along with the Nic we'll be able to move forward together.

Looks like your time off helped calm you down.

 

[Move2CLT]

Doug Parker speaking to America West Pilots

"First off, as to the . . . the stagnation of growth, for America West
pilots since the merger – what I will tell you is, and this is a hard thing to
communicate to people but I believe it with all my heart: If we didn’t do the
merger with US Airways, you’d be in a lot worse position. Frankly, I think
as a 3 [year] F/O, you wouldn’t have a job.

We would have gone through a bankruptcy filing. We would have
downsized. We had an airline at America West that had 20% lower unit
revenues than US Airways and now has the same unit costs. That airline
could not survive. We would have tried to make it better. We’d go file
bankruptcy and get ourselves a little stronger and now the economy’s back
and we’d be trying to come out like Delta is.

But I swear to you that [the] airline was going to file bankruptcy.
When it filed bankruptcy, we would have downsized at least 15%, and, you
know, while you feel bad about stagnation, you should feel better about that
versus where you were headed. And that’s where we were headed." OUCH!!!!!

Were we anywhere near filing? No?

OUCH!!!!!

 

[Phoenix]

Interesting for the APA. You on the other hand will be on a much worse contract than the APA negotiated in Bankruptcy....with not such much as a glimmer of hope for any improvements as far into the distance as you care to look.

And pilots are acting like two cats tied together by their tails and hosed down by a garden hose from a teenage punk. When are folks gonna direct their rage at the punk?