OCT/NOV 2012 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[traderjake]

You have to trust your leaders, it will work out. "Lead, follow or get the hell out of the way."

My union officials are about to experience a recall attempt.

 

[Claxon]

My union officials are about to experience a recall attempt.

That may be a first time for you kid, but experienced pilots have been through many.

Hold your shoe steady, it will have a real nice shine soon.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

I pumped gas at an FBO that had a Hughs 300 and 500, the instructors gave me a little dual in the 300.

Flying my Dad's J4 is more my speed.

Well same lineage, LINEBOY, AIRLINEPILOT, BOUGHT COMPANY, Great Venture , Great Employees, No J4, sorry!

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

My union officials are about to experience a recall attempt.

THAT C"MON BS ATTEMPT HAS BEEN IN INCEPTION FOR, HOW LONG? PLEEZ PUT UP OR SHUT UP!

 

[end_of_alpa]

Karma, you should be very afraid.

Santa is making a list and he doesn't like people who lie and cheat.

First, there is no Santa Claus.

Second, D.E., you should really consider who you call a lie and a cheat....it's beneath you.

Simple advice....not that you'll respect it.

Hope you have a nice holiday.

 

[traderjake]

Second, D.E., you should really consider who you call a lie and a cheat.

Simple advice....not that you'll respect it.

Anyone who reneges on a mutually agreed upon arbitration process because they don't like the result is a lier and a cheat and I disrepect them......not that you'll understand that.

 

[end_of_alpa]

Anyone who reneges on a mutually agreed upon arbitration process because they don't like the result is a lier and a cheat and I disrepect them.

Well, hope you don't bring that into the cockpit if we ever fly together... Your disrespect extends to the other guys you fly with as we'll. will you call the a lier and a cheat to their face?

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Anyone who reneges on a mutually agreed upon arbitration process because they don't like the result is a lier and a cheat and I disrepect them.

DE, If you don't believe in the phrase" THE FIX IS IN"! You have never heard of ADDINGTON!

 

[traderjake]

THAT C"MON BS ATTEMPT HAS BEEN IN INCEPTION FOR, HOW LONG? PLEEZ PUT UP OR SHUT UP!

You won't have to wait long, should happen in December.

 

[traderjake]

DE, If you don't believe in the phrase" THE FIX IS IN"! You have never heard of ADDINGTON!

I guess the fix was in for the Shuttle and Delta Northwest arbitrations which used the basically the same methodology.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

I guess the fix was in for the Shuttle and Delta Northwest arbitrations which used the basically the same methodology.

REALLY? MORE BS! You know put up or shut-up, do your recall, you are .05 percent of the EAST you and MR. BIASEDFACTS!, make up the "IDIOTS OF THE EAST" so knock yourself out!"

 

[Phoenix]

Well, hope you don't bring that into the cockpit if we ever fly together... Your disrespect extends to the other guys you fly with as we'll. will you call the a lier and a cheat to their face?

I think most pilots wouldn't call Parter and his Pals liars and cheats for failing to back up their obligations.

But I was on the jump seat from PHX to SFO last month and the Capt was telling the FO about an experience at the restaurant. It seems his waiter forgot to bring his requested lemon slice with his glass of ice water, so he called him a liar and a cheat. The FO ask why he did that. The Capt responded, "Because the waiter doesn't know what a easthole is." I asked him if he got his lemon slice yet.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

I guess the fix was in for the Shuttle and Delta Northwest arbitrations which used the basically the same methodology.

IDIOTS OF THE EAST! HOW MANY TIMES WAS ALPA MERGER POLICY CHANGED AND WHY WHEN? I have the answer! INTERNAL UNION POLICY! CYIC!

 

[end_of_alpa]

I guess the fix was in for the Shuttle and Delta Northwest arbitrations which used the basically the same methodology.

You know D.E., like it or not...LOA 93 was ALPA. The transition agreement....ALPA.

You voted on LOA 93 and got it.

You DIDN'T vote on the transition agreement.....the main reason ALPA was VOTED off the property. They kept negotiations secret. USAPA may have been the flame, but ALPA supplied the fuel from a series of fuel leaks tat finally caught up with it.

ALPA negotiated without the governed consent. ALPA negotiated an unenforceable contract provision. Pure and simple. If you're NOT square with that then seriously, IMHO, you need serious help.

How about the SWA/Air tran merger...what kind of love test did that create and we don't work there anyway.

We waste our time on another ALPA nostalgic pining for the old days.

Guess what, deregulation, Sept. 11, the Great Recession and a few other things I'm forgetting have occurred. Somehow, the law is not supporting your "liar and cheat" analysis. You may want to bring this up with guys in the cockpit. I bet that would make for great CRM.

And somehow you think that this cohesive shining city on the hill lives on without change?

YOU could help everyone if you went on strike. Do you think all the other pilots would follow your lead if you did that?

 

[traderjake]

We waste our time on another ALPA nostalgic pining for the old days.

I was never a fan of ALPA, truth be told the majority of ALPA pilots would have liked to see us disappear.