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OCT/NOV 2012 US Pilots Labor Discussion

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No traitor, your are the loser because you don't realize that he stood up for what is right. He didn't sell out for the himself, unlike you, he rejected the Kirby and NIC, because it isn't right. Yeah, he could have sold out and made more money, but unlike you, he has a sense of right and wrong.
breeze

There's that genuine easthole mentality again. One which equates honoring one's agreements with selling out.
 
I just talked to a friend of Jim's and he said that there was a post on another forum from Boeing Boy today. Maybe he just hit his limit here, but hopefully otherwise he is doing well.
 
I don't know if this has ever been mentioned or not but a few months ago, USAPA marked a very special Anniversary that for some reason, they failed to acknowledge. USAPA, has now been the bargaining agent for 56% of the time the East pilots have spent on LOA 93.

Meaning of course, MORE TIME than the evil, inept ALPA. I'd ask what the excuse is but I don't think there is enough total band width in all of the Internet to support the rivers of hyperbolic, half truthed Bullsh!t that will flow trying to deflect any and all blame from USTUPID. The "Gold Standard" of fake unionism wrapped in a blanket of moral-less greed and impotent dysfunction.
 
So, American Pilots Association is rumored close to a contract with their company, where is my contract? USAPA- hello?? Anybody home??? :lol:
 
Someday, when this is all over, I hope you finally understand it all.....otherwise, you will live in that agony forever. It has everything to do with accepting reality.
breeze

What's not to understand?
  • The AAA pilots agreed to the merger process administered via ALPA merger policy, and the final result of any negotiations, mediation or arbitration.
  • Demanded DOH when asked by Nicolau
  • Told by Nicolau that you would NOT get DOH in arbitration
  • Nicolau list delivered, CIRP activated
  • AAA pulls all negotiators from JCBA talks of a nearly completed contract (2007)
  • Steve Bradford finds his first lawyer that promises DOH is a slam dunk. Steve promises a new union that WILL deliver a new JCBA within 90 days of the inception of USAPA (May 2008) that included DOH - the GOLD STANDARD in seniority
  • USAPA sues 24+ members for RICO charges (TWICE! and LOST TWICE!), thus causing those pilots to expend $$$ in an attempted persecution.
  • USAPA threatens PHX base pilots with termination for failure to pay union dues to a union that seeks to harm that same body of pilots
  • USAPA spends MORE money (in excess of 10 million) in litigation than ANY OTHER LABOR ORGANIZATION in the past 5+ years; the only win? Delay as delivered by the Ninth
  • USAPA charges 3 pilots with "Address-Gate", and attempts to file crimal charges for the same (another FAILURE)
  • While USAPA tries to continue down the road of DOH somehow, they fail to see the train light at the end of the tunnel: APA (about as large a body vs. USAPA as USAPA vs. AWA). I wonder how that's going to turn out?
No, I think EVERYONE else gets it. The AFO & ACO club still have the scales on their eyes, failing to see the light.

Breeze;
We are well funded. We stand FIRMLY on legal, moral and ethical HIGH GROUND. Dug has played you better than Charlie Daniels plays his fiddle.

SYIC-A (see you in court - again)
 
He forgot to mention the fact that "using the legal system" is a necessity due to the Unions seniority proposal was found to be illegal upon its merits. Why didn't he mention the "dangerous ground" that Silver plainly warned the company of?

This fake union is utterly incapable of viewing the World as it actually exists in reality. There's always a boogey man to be blamed for the endless list of failures and delay. It's quite pathetic actually.
We get it your "BOOGEYMAM" usapa hides under your bed! PATHETIC, grow up!
 
I don't know if this has ever been mentioned or not but a few months ago, USAPA marked a very special Anniversary that for some reason, they failed to acknowledge. USAPA, has now been the bargaining agent for 56% of the time the East pilots have spent on LOA 93.

Meaning of course, MORE TIME than the evil, inept ALPA. I'd ask what the excuse is but I don't think there is enough total band width in all of the Internet to support the rivers of hyperbolic, half truthed Bullsh!t that will flow trying to deflect any and all blame from USTUPID. The "Gold Standard" of fake unionism wrapped in a blanket of moral-less greed and impotent dysfunction.
Well there is always ITT video, you can play those childish reruns, that will empower your stagnation and overstaffing!
 
There's that genuine easthole mentality again. One which equates honoring one's agreements with selling out.
Honoring one's agreement? Selling out?, In other words I am entitled and want your job! TOAST ! Never happen DREAM ON! DUI said overstaffed, no hiring 2013! Enjoy those vacation days!
 
I don't know if this has ever been mentioned or not but a few months ago, USAPA marked a very special Anniversary that for some reason, they failed to acknowledge. USAPA, has now been the bargaining agent for 56% of the time the East pilots have spent on LOA 93.

Meaning of course, MORE TIME than the evil, inept ALPA. I'd ask what the excuse is but I don't think there is enough total band width in all of the Internet to support the rivers of hyperbolic, half truthed Bullsh!t that will flow trying to deflect any and all blame from USTUPID. The "Gold Standard" of fake unionism wrapped in a blanket of moral-less greed and impotent dysfunction.
Really? Actually I see on the MARKED SPECIAL DAYS USAPA CALENDER, the day "WAKES DECISION WAS VACATED BY THE 9TH" and rendered mute and a "CLEAN SLATE" ! EXISTS for USAPA! GO ALONG MARTY NEEDS XMAS SHOPPING MONEY!
 
What's not to understand?
  • The AAA pilots agreed to the merger process administered via ALPA merger policy, and the final result of any negotiations, mediation or arbitration.
  • Demanded DOH when asked by Nicolau
  • Told by Nicolau that you would NOT get DOH in arbitration
  • Nicolau list delivered, CIRP activated
  • AAA pulls all negotiators from JCBA talks of a nearly completed contract (2007)
  • Steve Bradford finds his first lawyer that promises DOH is a slam dunk. Steve promises a new union that WILL deliver a new JCBA within 90 days of the inception of USAPA (May 2008) that included DOH - the GOLD STANDARD in seniority
  • USAPA sues 24+ members for RICO charges (TWICE! and LOST TWICE!), thus causing those pilots to expend $$$ in an attempted persecution.
  • USAPA threatens PHX base pilots with termination for failure to pay union dues to a union that seeks to harm that same body of pilots
  • USAPA spends MORE money (in excess of 10 million) in litigation than ANY OTHER LABOR ORGANIZATION in the past 5+ years; the only win? Delay as delivered by the Ninth
  • USAPA charges 3 pilots with "Address-Gate", and attempts to file crimal charges for the same (another FAILURE)
  • While USAPA tries to continue down the road of DOH somehow, they fail to see the train light at the end of the tunnel: APA (about as large a body vs. USAPA as USAPA vs. AWA). I wonder how that's going to turn out?
No, I think EVERYONE else gets it. The AFO & ACO club still have the scales on their eyes, failing to see the light.

Breeze;
We are well funded. We stand FIRMLY on legal, moral and ethical HIGH GROUND. Dug has played you better than Charlie Daniels plays his fiddle.

SYIC-A (see you in court - again)

WEYSTYGT! well, enjoy your, stagnation till you get there! The wheels of justice, except wake(pocket judge) move very slowly! MM!
 
WEYSTYGT! well, enjoy your, stagnation till you get there! The wheels of justice, except wake(pocket judge) move very slowly! MM!

Here is the insane part, you think you are winning. Next year Delta will have 1,400 FIRST OFFICERS with a pay rate above $160 an hour. That's right 1,400 FIRST OFFICERS that make more than your A-330 Captains. A B-717 Captain flying domestically with 110 passengers will be making $183, the FIRST OFFICERS will be making $125, yep that is your A-320 CA pay. This is mass insanity on the part of the East pilots to think that waiting for 7 years for an upgrade that gets them to industry standard FIRST OFFICER pay rates. Wake up guys, you are not cutting off your nose to spite your face you are cutting off your arms, legs, and most of the rest of your career to spite ???????????? Who knows, the list of people you have grudges against seems too long to list.

Side note, thank you for leaving ALPA so we don't have to deal with this train wreck any more.
 
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