US pilot labor thread 7/13-7/20

[ableoneable]

Nope..I'm just entirely unimpresed with such as yourself and your entire bunch of perpetually adolescent buffoons.

Have a fine evening.

I see that you are staying true to form.

Instead of responding to anything you kick some sand out of the sandbox, label me and all westies as buffoons and then take your ball and go home. Yes, you are clearly the mature professional here. :wacko: (I leave this icon as it appears to be the language you speak most proficiently.)


BTW, mister experience, how much flight time did you have when USAir hired you?

Bet it was south of 2000hrs.

P.S. Sigh..

 

[jtwhat]

I see that you are staying true to form.

Instead of responding to anything you kick some sand out of the sandbox, label me and all westies as buffoons and then take your ball and go home. Yes, you are clearly the mature professional here. :wacko: (I leave this icon as it appears to be the language you speak most proficiently.)


BTW, mister experience, how much flight time did you have when USAir hired you?

Bet it was south of 2000hrs.

P.S. Sigh..

Hey what are you doing questioning the great USeast GEEZER. He might get upset and make a bet with you that he can out fly anyone from is wheel chair at the retirement home.

 

[ableoneable]

And none of the usual suspects here will address this directly. None. Zero.

Situation normal.

Skip straight to the personal attack. It's much simpler.

 

[EastUS]

Hey what are you doing questioning the great USeast GEEZER. He might get upset and make a bet with you that he can out fly anyone from is wheel chair at the retirement home.

I'd naturally figured on some AWA ferrets going for a back-stab-after-the-fact opportunity here...as is in keeping with smarmy westie notions of "Integrity".

Should some utterly nutless little weasel like yourself ever take up such a wager...I'd be impressed. Otherwise, and as usual..you're just another, spineless and meaningless, cowardly little punk with nothing but a mouth to offer the world. Enjoy what passes for a "life" for you...if you can.

You've only ever gotten one thing right out there =Integrity does matter...not that you've any personal experience with that...nor seem likely to ever have.

Should you want some slight primer on "Integrity" I'll offer but one small thought regarding just the jumpseat issue. ANY of you "people", while dressed up as pilots, are always welcome to ride on "my" jumpseat..always. That has nothing to do with what I think of you, nor any personal issues of my own..other than those of pure principle. I'll NOT attack a once seriously respected profession..that I yet have great love for...merely in order to satisfy some minor irritations within some petty work groups' disputes within any given company. You sorry little swine care nothing for any such concepts, and understand NOTHING past "IT's ALL about MEEE!". It's truly disgusting..and outright sickening to have seen what garbage your sort's so ready to produce. GROW UP!!..if not for your sakes..how about for those that actually take aviation far more seriously than even themselves?..than even their very lives?...How about for all those who've proudly, and with great difficulty at times, gone before us, and would properly not even spit on your smarmy, pathetic, and completely trivial little BS antics? How about having some respect for the Profession?...if not for yourselves as well? That last, based upon what I've read here this past year..I can understand some of you having great difficulties with. That's YOUR problem, and fully fails to excuse any/all of your disgusting and childish behavior....Period.

PS: If I'm banned for these postings..I'll come back as possible later..to check any PM's..should you find yourself "a pair", and have actual interest in trying to outfly a poor antique in his wheel chair. Why...just consider the possible "glory" and bragging rights you could have amongst all your herioc/"ARMY of Leo-Losers"mighty, envelope-stuffing "warriors"....I suspect that I've little reasons for holding my breath on that though 😉

 

[EastUS]

I see that you are staying true to form.

You've actually the perception required to note that? Here's something new. I'm both surprised and shocked!

"BTW, mister experience, how much flight time did you have when USAir hired you?

Bet it was south of 2000hrs."

Guess again genius. That was my third airline uniform, and I wasn't even hired by USAir, but rather absorbed..and that all only started after a stint on active duty USAF, with continuing USAFR service...While we're doing some "reality checking": Know the following true history: Being hired at a half-azzed joke of an operation like AWA was properly cause for serious sympathy "back when"...and I only ever personally knew of one unfortunate..who interviewed poorly it seems..that even actually took the job for all of 3 months..before finally getting on with an actual Airline.

In any case..go back to to the cowardly back-stabs..whle you're at it...thump your tiny chests about your supposed "Integrity"..maybe "Stuff" an envelope or two, make a few prank phone calls..heck..hang a child's doll or two...and generally live up to your proud "heritage" as it's been so clearly established...Have fun..that's what kids do best

I can find better usages of my time volunteerig with counseling troubled youth. It's certain that "conversing' with many of your "side" this past year has kept those abilities fairly fresh. I think we're done here.

 

[Megasnoop]

BTW, for the edification of Suzie, who accused east pilots of declining "proceed direct" offers from ATC during the PHX meeting - our flight releases often have the term "ctrl calc rte" or something very similar in the remarks section. This indicates that the route as planned and filed is the most fuel efficient and least time when considering winds, weather, etc. On a coast to coast flight, a short cut from ATC may in fact cost considerably more time and fuel than sticking to the original flight plan. Best to check with dispatch. But on several occasions I have declined "directs" for exactly those reasons.

Although her accusation was wrong, at least it was one of her coherent remarks.

You’re right, Piedmont. I don’t do domestic any more (just Atlantic), so maybe things have changed, but I remember the NRP class right after we went to one certificate. If forced to take a “direct,â€￾ you have no choice. If offered direct, the company said turn it down and don't ever ask for direct. If you accept or ask for direct, you lose your NRP priority, whatever that meant. The only thing weirder than Suzie’s performance was that she got a round of applause. S

 

[prechilill]

A glimpse inside the head of a troubled, insecure man:

Guess again genius. That was my third airline uniform, and I wasn't even hired by USAir, but rather absorbed..and that all only started after a stint on active duty USAF, with continuing USAFR service...While we're doing some "reality checking": Know the following true history: Being hired at a half-azzed joke of an operation like AWA was properly cause for serious sympathy "back when"...and I only ever personally knew of one unfortunate..who interviewed poorly it seems..that even actually took the job for all of 3 months..before finally getting on with an actual Airline.

 

[EastUS]

A glimpse inside the head of a troubled, insecure man:

That was a direct answer to one of your little gerbil's jibes genius = "BTW, mister experience, how much flight time did you have when USAir hired you?
Bet it was south of 2000hrs."


Accurate projection's never been your long suit..and you've never seemed to "get" that the world at large hardly "thinks" like you would believe. Stick with the "cute" avatars and other obvious projections and embellishments of your very clear mental illness little one...it's what you do best. All need go no further for the finest examples of "troubled" than your pathetic little bunch of perpetual adolescants. A finer, and more complete study in arrested development would be very, very difficult to find anywhere.

Last thought for the present = When meeting any of "you" out there; I sincerely promise that I'll do my utmost to not assume that all west pilots are accurately represented by the childish, and fully clueless individuals that post "on behalf" of the west hereabouts. I'll further strive to believe that the west's not truly represented by utter scum that hang dolls, mail excrement, and tie up Safety phone lines playing idiotic games. In other words...i'll afford the benefit of the doubt..as much as I possibly can. Purely from a statistical standpoint..and a respectable safety record...not all can possibly be the sorts that stalk the boards here. I don't believe that complete idiots who don't even understand no flap landings and brake cooling issues, as demonstrated by one mouthy NLC="Captain Cool" "westie" on an earlier thread...could possibly be representative of the group as a whole...nor can it be true that all out there are either deranged harpies, mouthy punksters, and/or simply sorry excuses just for human beings, much less any Professional Pilots. I'll NEVER afford any the least unprofessional discourtesy, nor denial of any jumpseat. If any wish to act out the role of dyspeptic, undisciplined little children...be it on your heads, as the "favor" will not be returned by me within the working enviornment..EVER. To those that fit the negative descriptives above? = Grow Up.

I'm afraid that my patience is competely exhausted..and..apparently has been for some time. I see little point in simply maintaining, or even upping the level of acidity around here. Things will work out or they won't..and life shows us that they always do "work out"..although not always in the ways some would wish. There's no need for any west-east "love fest" nor do I ever expect to see any such.

Best of luck to all in these troubled times. Take care/etc. It's a gorgeous day outside....I'm gone.

 

[Piedmont1984]

Goooooood morning posters and moderators! I really need to find an AA meeting somewhere - that would be Aviation Anonymous.

Speaking of anonymous - how about this for an idea. In an effort to raise the quality of debate, at least on this particular thread, how about posting our real identities instead of hiding behind avatars? How about name, rank and base?

Is this permitted by the board rules and regs?

Would this possibly contribute to the level of civility?

Anyone interested? C'mon ableoneable, leonidis, prehilill - you show me your's and I'll show you mine.

New rules, anyone who posts anonymously does not get a response.

Beginning after this post - that is.

 

[YVINTERN]

Goooooood morning posters and moderators! I really need to find an AA meeting somewhere - that would be Aviation Anonymous.

Speaking of anonymous - how about this for an idea. In an effort to raise the quality of debate, at least on this particular thread, how about posting our real identities instead of hiding behind avatars? How about name, rank and base?

Is this permitted by the board rules and regs?

Would this possibly contribute to the level of civility?

Anyone interested? C'mon ableoneable, leonidis, prehilill - you show me your's and I'll show you mine.

New rules, anyone who posts anonymously does not get a response.

Beginning after this post - that is.

I'm Jed Clampett and my base is uhh...well it ain't wide enough for the BBWs but whatever. Now that I've identified myself let me just say because if we posted our real names, rank, bases...The company will just flag us down and terminate our employment with US Airways in which I'm sure is your real agenda.

Have an nice day,
Jed Clampett, Fake Pittsburgh A330 First Officer

 

[hp_fa]

You’re right, Piedmont. I don’t do domestic any more (just Atlantic), so maybe things have changed, but I remember the NRP class right after we went to one certificate. If forced to take a “direct,â€￾ you have no choice. If offered direct, the company said turn it down and don't ever ask for direct. If you accept or ask for direct, you lose your NRP priority, whatever that meant. The only thing weirder than Suzie’s performance was that she got a round of applause. S

NRP? NRP priority? Can someone provide a quick definition? Google isn't helping with a search for a definition.

 

[oldiebutgoody]

NRP? NRP priority? Can someone provide a quick definition? Google isn't helping with a search for a definition.

I believe it stands for National Routing Plan. It's something the FAA cooked up a few years ago to reduce congestion into/out of major airports and on major airways.

If you are on one, you're not supposed to deviate unless specifically directed by the ARTCC. At least that's what I remember. Haven't flown domestic in a while.

 

[Freighterguynow]

USAPA's DOH/LOH scheme seeks to furlough pilots who were employed at the time of the merger and replace them with pilots who were on the street.


And none of the usual suspects here will address this directly. None. Zero.



And yet you advocate the same in 2008. Replacing active East pilots with furloughed West ones.

In July 2008 you didn't bring those jobs to the merger anymore - a merger that has not been finalized yet.

 

[hp_fa]

Thanks Oldie

 

[oldiebutgoody]

Thanks Oldie

I was off a little. NRP stand for National Route Program. But the purpose remains the same.