Ain't that the truth...the day isn't half over yet and 3-4 pages of repeating more of the same. Though it's too much to go back and reply to (there'd be another new 3-4 pages of the same before I could finish that) I had to laugh at a lot of it - using quotes from USAPA's filings as though they're what the 9th said, reprimanding the use of "out of context" quotes but engaging in the same, accusations of reading things into the 9th's statements instead of just reading the words then using their own interpretation of those words. All the old tricks.
However, one response to Black Swan - I've always understood what you're claiming with the "internal union issue vs union/company issue" and arbitrations. I don't happen to agree but understand what you're claiming. My point, which you didn't address (deflecting as usual) was that one of your own didn't agree with you and supposedly a lawyer involved in the LOA93 grievance disagreed with you also.
Jim
Oh, one other thing. Babtiste & Wilder is not a "he", it would be "they" and as I recall neither of them wrote the blog article you love (though my memory may admittedly be wrong on the latter point).
Wrong Again Jim, yet another swing and a miss by boeing boy...
It is a "he", and for the record it is William "Bill" Wilder, who writes the RLA Blog, see below. You really need to get your facts straight before you pontificate, by the way, the Law firm is Baptiste & Wilder.
Swan
http://bapwild.com/blog/
Railway Labor Act Blog
Blog
About Baptiste & Wilder, P.C.
Baptiste & Wilder, P.C. counsels labor organizations representing more employees covered by the Railway Labor Act than any other law firm in the country. It represents rail labor organizations in national collective bargaining and before Presidential Emergency Boards in disputes with the major rail freight carriers, AMTRAK, and various local commuter railroads. It has represented nearly all crafts and classes of airline employees covered by the Act in negotiations, arbitration, litigation, and in merger transactions and bankruptcy proceedings.
William Wilder devotes a considerable portion of his practice to the representation of labor organizations and employees under the RLA. The views expressed here are his alone.
Learn more about Baptiste & Wilder, P.C. at www.bapwild.com
http://bapwild.com/blog/?paged=5
Judge issues injunction against US Airways pilots union
July 27, 2009 on 5:25 pm | In Airlines, Arbitration, Collective bargaining, RLA case law, US Airways, pilot seniority | 27 Comments
....This decision is wrong, contradicts established law and is dangerous to the state of the law under the Railway Labor Act.
While the judge correctly concluded that USAPA is the successor to ALPA’s collective bargaining agreement, that in no way restricts USAPA from negotiating any and all terms of that agreement, including the Nicolau Award. The judge nowhere considers precedent, such as Association of Flight Attendants v. United Airlines and Association of Flight Attendants v. US Airways, which hold that a predecessor union’s collective bargaining agreement provides only the beginning point for a successor union’s negotiations and the successor is free to negotiate changes to the agreement. To do otherwise would perpetuate the rejected union as representative.
http://bapwild.com/blog/?paged=9
Jury rules against US Airways pilot union
May 14, 2009 on 8:26 pm | In Airline mergers, Arbitration, Collective bargaining, RLA case law, pilot seniority | No Comments
A federal jury in Phoenix, AZ ruled yesterday against the United States Airline Pilots Association, the independent union that displaced the Air Line Pilots Association last year as representative of the pilots of US Airways following the furor over the combined seniority list award handed down under ALPA’s internal arbitration proceeding between pre-merger US Airways and America West pilots.
